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Why don't Americans ride trains?
The Economist ^ | 29 Aug 2013 | Economist

Posted on 05/09/2014 9:49:39 PM PDT by Cronos

AMERICA has by far the largest rail network in the world, with more than twice as much track as China. But it lags far behind other first-world countries in ridership. Instead of passengers, most of America's massive rail network is used to carry freight. Why don't Americans ride trains?

..the Japanese, the Swiss, the French, the Danes, the Russians, the Austrians, the Ukrainians, the Belarussians and the Belgians all accounted for more than 1,000 passenger-kilometres by rail in 2011; Americans accounted for 80. Amtrak carries 31m passengers per year. Mozambique's railways carried 108m passengers in 2011.

There are many reasons why Americans don't ride the rails as often as their European cousins. Most obviously, America is bigger than most European countries. Outside the northeast corridor, the central Texas megalopolis, California and the eastern Midwest, density is sometimes too low to support intercity train travel. Underinvestment, and a preference for shiny new visions over boring upgrades, has not helped. Most American passenger trains travel on tracks that are owned by freight companies. That means most trains have to defer to freight services, leading to lengthy delays that scare off passengers who want to arrive on time.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: carsstink; governmentstinks; planesstink; rail; trainsstink; trucksstink
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Interesting article.

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If I take a train from Dublin to Galway, I have within 20 minutes' walk of either terminus hundreds of bars, restaurants, offices, and other attractions at my disposal. If I take a train from say, Orange County to Phoenix, I have within 20 minutes' walk about 5 freeway overpasses and lots of parking lots.

Most of the US is a suburban hellscape, with anything worth doing at least 20 minutes' drive away. This is largely the result of ridiculous parking minimums (forcing business owners to subsidize private automobile storage) and NIMBYs fighting denser development because of parking concerns (forcing the government - i.e. all of us, to subsidize private automobile storage). The true irony of this is that it doesn't even ease traffic; people spend most of their time driving not through interesting things but.. automobile infrastructure (after all about 70% of LA's surface area is pavement or buildings dedicated to automobiles).
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Most American cities are laid out differently than in Europe (other than older cities in the NE corridor). They are sprawling and spread out. Suburban areas have houses with huge lots. Stores are massive, like Walmart, and have huge parking lots. This makes mass transport within cities impractical. Mass transport only works in places with high population density. Therefore, people might we willing to take a train between nearby cities, like Dallas and Houston or LA and SF, but once they get to their destination, they'd have no way to get anywhere without a car. Alternatives could be taxi (expensive if you have more than a few limited destinations), shared ride van (slow), and car rental (again, rather expensive). Plus the train station itself may be far from your true destination within the city (driving across LA can take hours).

This is why trains are not practical in most US cities for most travelers.

1 posted on 05/09/2014 9:49:39 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos
Willie Green is disappointed.

Free travel is the ideal. Anything less is subject to getting there on time via a vehicle.

2 posted on 05/09/2014 9:54:01 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cronos

Too expensive, too slow, too remote.


3 posted on 05/09/2014 9:54:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: GeronL

Willie Green Memorial Ping.


4 posted on 05/09/2014 9:56:22 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Cronos
The US railroad industry is one of the most onerously-regulated in the world. The federal government’s to blame. The requirements that the feds have for running passenger trains at any competitive speed are utterly ridiculous; not only “track classes” but also signaling requirements, “crashworthiness” regulations that are absurdly high and not even all that practical.

At railroad crossings, the Federal Railroad Administration even requires that if you intend to run passenger trains faster than 110 mph and up to 125 mph, you have to put up something called an “impenetrable barrier” now (and there is no such thing as yet) or eliminate the crossing altogether. For faster than 125 mph, all crossings have to go.
5 posted on 05/09/2014 9:56:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Cronos

Because Hitler loved Trains. Next question.


6 posted on 05/09/2014 9:56:35 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: Cronos

Because they tell you where you can go, and when you can go there. DONE!


7 posted on 05/09/2014 9:56:45 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks to Washington DC.

Even freight trains hauled by steam locos used to be faster than the freights running today.


8 posted on 05/09/2014 9:57:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: cdcdawg

So do airlines. And the “Hound”.


9 posted on 05/09/2014 9:58:17 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Kickass Conservative

Heh. Now that’s someone who really hated trains, in fact. That’s why he built the Reichsautobahn.


10 posted on 05/09/2014 9:59:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Cronos

Trains don’t go where my dog and I want to go.


11 posted on 05/09/2014 10:00:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Olog-hai

The only reason we fly is because we cannot drive there on our own terms. Flying sucks, in case you didn’t notice, and riding the bus is the ultimate in suck. All sorts of awful delays, and dealing with .... folk.


12 posted on 05/09/2014 10:00:11 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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Driving cars and trucks represents FREEDOM for American. Also, because America is so vast, cars are more practical for transportation. Once Euro, who used to distain Americans for their love of Autos, realized that Cars are more practical for us because everything is so spread out here.

Another factor- driving in cars makes Americans less susceptible to terrorist attack AND Government control. When you can control the transit, the Government has its people in convenient, tight little boxes which can be coerced and/or terrorized. THIS is why Obama, Democrats, and other anti-American far-left extremist radical groups keep pushin for Public transportation.

13 posted on 05/09/2014 10:00:49 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. DonÂ’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: Cronos

Well, in the OLDEN DAYS, driving a car represented independence, freedom, romance, status, and well deserved white privilege, black privilege, Italian privilege, and any other ethnicity who worked hard in the American system and earned it. Trains are cool...but we used to be ‘exceptional’.


14 posted on 05/09/2014 10:02:35 PM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Cronos

Because I can get in my car when I want to and go places that trains can’t. I’m on my own schedule, that is the American way.


15 posted on 05/09/2014 10:03:12 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Cronos
This analysis is correct.

In Germany and Italy all the major cities are within two hours train time or less from another major city, and every city has a compact downtown with a centrally located train station and available public transportation.

16 posted on 05/09/2014 10:03:40 PM PDT by wideawake
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Takes me an hour to get to Penn Station or Grand Central, and then I'll have to get a cab to my final destination.

if I want to go to Atlantic city, the trains are twice as long as driving because there's no direct route -- you have to go through Philadelphia.

17 posted on 05/09/2014 10:03:43 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: cdcdawg

I certainly did notice.

A true pity that the federal government shut the free market out of the highway and commercial aviation business, too. Things could have been a lot more interesting and versatile. (Ultralight helicopter taking off from your driveway?)


18 posted on 05/09/2014 10:03:49 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Cronos

I would ride the train everywhere if there was a car waiting for me when I got there.


19 posted on 05/09/2014 10:04:02 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Cronos

Because we don’t have to.


20 posted on 05/09/2014 10:04:31 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Wagglebee please come home we miss you! ~ Þ)
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