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The Numbers Don’t Lie: Jeb Can’t Win
Yahoo News via Daily Beast ^ | 05/05/2014 | By Michael Tomasky

Posted on 05/05/2014 7:28:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

As we know, the search for an “establishment” candidate has been on in the GOP for a while now, a savior who can rescue the party from Rand Paul or Ted Cruz. That man, of course, is Jeb Bush. Last week on Hardball, Kathleen Parker said he is definitely running. She’s a conservative columnist but not a wacko, has establishment GOP credentials and Florida ties to boot. And she spoke with the air of someone who had had this nugget leaked to her specifically so that she would go out on national TV and blurt it out.

So take the idea of a Bush candidacy seriously. He’ll get many of the biggest donors and most plugged-in operatives, and he’ll immediately be spoken of by the media as a, if not the, GOP frontrunner.

So far, so normal. But here’s where things get interesting. Historically, “establishment” in this context also basically means “most formidable” and “most electable.” Look at the track record. Mitt Romney was the establishment candidate in 2012, John McCain in 2008, Jeb’s brother in 2000. Two of these three never became president, but there’s no doubt that all three were the best the GOP had to offer in their given years. Who would have run better than McCain in 2008? Maybe, possibly Romney himself. But not Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul. And 2012’s lineup besides Romney was comic relief. Any one of them couldn’t have topped 200 electoral votes. And Dubya, of course, won. (Well, “won,” but that’s a different column.)

It’s an iron law of presidential politics: The establishment candidate is, almost by definition, the most formidable candidate. Well, I guess iron ain’t what it used to be, because here’s the funny thing: Jeb Bush is not any stronger against Hillary Clinton

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To: Dave W

militant absolutists are as much of a problem as is Obama.
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Your boy Willard is a “militant absolutist” for abortion and same sex marriage and other evils..

so much so that he is the father of SSM in that he led the way and made MASS the first state to have SSM to the point that he signed the licenses for the first several SSM couples himself with his authority as MASS gov..

for his RomneyCare, Willard made $50 abortions part of the package...

and so on...

you really ought to watch and listen to your boy Willard at the 2002 MASS gov debates in which he makes promises about abortion..at the time MASS was considering lowering or increasing the age for underage girls to get an abortion in MASS without parent consent..

during the debates your boy Willard promised (to the square and blood oath with gestures Im sure) that if the parents of a girl of any age refused their parent consent for her to get an abortion in MASS he as gov would have the local judge override the parents God given authority and let the girl murder her baby..

and of course the flaming liberal Willard promised that he would not try to overturn Roe V Wade etc..

and then theres the 1994 debates with Teddy where Willard called Roe V Wade “the law of the land” and promised not to stop women from getting abortions..He would “uphold a woman’s right to a abortion”

“militant absolutists are as much of a problem as is Obama” ???

Yes that describes your boy Willard....

hes just the same as Obama..


101 posted on 05/06/2014 5:44:03 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Your hatred is showing. Your old news goes back decades. I'm not here to talk about Willard. I know what he believes so don't feel a need to educate me on his beliefs.

Militant absolutists will be the cause of the unraveling of this country. I can write with no doubt, you would find much fault with Jesus Christ - I know without a doubt there is no one who would satisfy you. You, as a militant absolutist focus on old views and twist them simply because someone is not completely pure and the candidate is horribly tainted because of a)half truth and a b) lie and c)more faux outrage.

I know people like you. They tend to bully their family with constant badgering so your opionion always prevail. Often, the kids end up in counseling with all kinds of emotional problems.

Instead of normal relationships, often these militant absolutists lecture friends and family instead of a normal conversation - but I do feel for you - it is a condition that is hard to control.

Do you pass your own purity test? Probably not, but you pretend to do so.

He is not the same as Obama...any half awake individuals know he is not. But you exist only as a ball of emotion - there is little evidence of thought, just emotion. Yes, militant absolutists are as much of a problem as Obama.

102 posted on 05/06/2014 7:31:10 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Impy; GOPsterinMA; RitaOK; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; BillyBoy
RE:”I gotta oppose Rand, sure he’s better than Jeb and Cristie Creme but he and his daddy are kooks and I think he’d probably fall on his face in a POTUS camp”

Oppose Rand??

Our compassionate flower child?

Come on dude why all the bad vipes? you are bumming me out.

Lets all sit down and chill out together and enjoy our constitutional right to smoking a doo-bee or two and then ,,

.... Jupiter aligns with Mars
And peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
Age of Aquarius

Aquarius, Aquarius

Harmony and understanding, sympathy and trust abounding
No more false hoods or derisions, golden living dreams of visions
Mystic crystal revelations, and the mind's true liberations

Aquarius, Aquarius

103 posted on 05/06/2014 9:27:19 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: Impy; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; BillyBoy

LOL


104 posted on 05/06/2014 9:29:10 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

JEB will NEVER be OUR nominee Karl Rove can throw ALL the money he wants at his candidacy he will NEVER win the primary!!! All of you are
jumping the gun!!! We have FAR TO MANY talented governors, Karl Rove
WILL lose this one!!!!!


105 posted on 05/06/2014 9:44:08 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Kit cat; ohioWfan; Impy; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; BillyBoy
RE :”JEB will NEVER be OUR nominee Karl Rove can throw ALL the money he wants at his candidacy he will NEVER win the primary!!! All of you are
jumping the gun!!! We have FAR TO MANY talented governors, Karl Rove
WILL lose this one!!!!!”

He wont ???, but he's the most electable.
And he speaks Spanish.

And he's compassionate.

His brother won twice and his father won once.

Whats wrong with the Bushes??

I am glad you brought Jeb up on a thread having zero to do with the Bushes. Support the Bush dynasty! Long live the King! Hail Jeb!

106 posted on 05/06/2014 9:55:30 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

Jeb WILL NEVER win the primary!!! Rick Perry speaks Spanish, Cruz speaks Spanish, Rubio speaks Spanish, SO WHAT,!!! JEB WILL NEVER
win the primary everyone is getting excited over what the MSM is suggesting is going to happen, since WHEN did you ALL start listening to
WHAT the HELL they had to say!!!!


107 posted on 05/06/2014 10:13:52 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: sickoflibs

The thread is ABOUT JEB what the heck are you talking about, have you
been drinking this evening!!!!


108 posted on 05/06/2014 10:16:23 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Bratch; GOPsterinMA

2006 was a while ago, I wouldn’t get hung up on that.


109 posted on 05/06/2014 10:25:12 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Kit cat; ohioWfan; Impy; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; BillyBoy
The thread is ABOUT JEB what the heck are you talking about, have you
been drinking this evening!!!!”

Your first Bush whining comment to me at #105 was replying to my #104 having nothing to do with Bush.

But maybe I better reconsider Bush if many too nutcases are against him.

110 posted on 05/06/2014 11:24:23 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

Instead of replying to post #1, some people reply to the last post in the thread, even though their remarks are not directed at that post, people have done it to me several times. Maybe that’s what “Kit cat” did.


111 posted on 05/06/2014 11:44:11 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy
RE:”Instead of replying to post #1, some people reply to the last post in the thread, even though their remarks are not directed at that post, people have done it to me several times. Maybe that’s what “Kit cat” did.

The whiny cat replied to my ‘LOL”

112 posted on 05/06/2014 11:49:21 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs; Impy; GOPsterinMA; RitaOK; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

“...Mystic crystal revelations, and the mind’s true liberations...”

You know... some songs SHOULD die off. Along with the hippies that wrote them.

“Mystic Crsytal revelations”????? WTF.... no wonder we are where are.


113 posted on 05/07/2014 4:50:40 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; GOPsterinMA; Impy; fieldmarshaldj

LOL! Who’s on first? That guy. The one with Mystic pizza!

I love FR! You guys are at it early though.

Now my cat has hairballs, so it’s off to the groomer.

Don’t you guys go ANYWHERE!

Thx very much for the ping.


114 posted on 05/07/2014 6:36:24 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Impy; NFHale; sickoflibs

That’s exactly what I was saying when I posted the points about Ronald Reagan.

The “purists” are gonna have a hard time finding a candidate that can garner more than 1% of the popular vote.

It’s best they stay at Old Country Buffet, waiting for Lawrence Welk to come on. They do less damage that way.


115 posted on 05/07/2014 7:15:58 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Khent is not stable... be advised...)
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To: RitaOK; sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; Impy; fieldmarshaldj

“...Now my cat has hairballs, so it’s off to the groomer....”

“...hairballs...”???

Wow... bad, bad imagery!!! hahah!!!!


116 posted on 05/07/2014 7:34:46 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

“...Old Country Buffet...”

I prefer Outback!!! Hahah!


117 posted on 05/07/2014 7:35:32 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sickoflibs

And he’s got GREAT hair!!!!

“Management” Hair... the kind that silvers up nicely and says “I’ve Got Experience!”

Eh... keep ‘im.


118 posted on 05/07/2014 7:38:28 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Yes, well, you’re not one of these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oklics6PFR8


119 posted on 05/07/2014 7:42:55 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Khent is not stable... be advised...)
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To: NFHale

That was “hair” not “hairy”...

Khent said to lock it up, Drippy.


120 posted on 05/07/2014 7:43:42 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Khent is not stable... be advised...)
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