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Neandertal: The Answer Is Epigenetics Not Evolution
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 5-2-2014 | Jeffrey Tomkins PhD

Posted on 05/05/2014 10:46:06 AM PDT by fishtank

Neandertal: The Answer Is Epigenetics Not Evolution

by Jeffrey Tomkins, Ph.D. *

Recent genome reports show that the Neandertals are essentially fully human, causing scientists to reclassify them as "archaic humans."1,2 But what about the apparent subtle differences in anatomy that first caused scientists to claim that Neandertals were a completely different species? It turns out that the answer can be found in epigenetics, according to newly published research.3

Epigenetics, in the more modern sense, refers to the heritable chemical changes performed by cellular machines to DNA that alter gene function without actually changing the DNA nucleotide code. In the field of genomics, it is more accurately referred to as chromatin modification. Chromatin is the stuff chromosomes are made of which consists of the DNA molecule packaged around proteins called histones. Both the DNA and the histone proteins can be chemically modified to control how genes function and are regulated along the chromosome.

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KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; creation; epigenetics; evolution; idiocy; notanewstopic
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1 posted on 05/05/2014 10:46:06 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

“Recent genome reports show that the Neandertals are essentially fully human, causing scientists to reclassify them as “archaic humans.”

When did this reclassification take place? I’ve read articles that classify them as such for years or is ICR taking liberties again?


2 posted on 05/05/2014 10:50:53 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: fishtank

OK.
What ever the hell he said.


3 posted on 05/05/2014 10:51:45 AM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Tupelo

Were they Democrats or Republicans?


4 posted on 05/05/2014 10:53:09 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: fishtank

I would like to know how genes control body plan. Such as shape and size. I think this is a big problem for conventional evolutionary theory.


5 posted on 05/05/2014 10:56:21 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: fishtank

Hard science leads where few want to tread. The evidence that Neanderthal and Homo Sapien are genetically identical is remarkable research. Stick that in your evolution pipe.


6 posted on 05/05/2014 10:56:46 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: fishtank
Does that mean that the DNA scientists could activate the Neanderthal genes, or that something like extreme climate change could do that for survival? Same thing with other animals. Could there be dormant dinosaur genes that could be activated? A real Jurassic Park?

I'm thinking reading up on this and speculating might be fun.

7 posted on 05/05/2014 10:56:49 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Democrat Politics + Epigenetics = Graft, Corruption, and Incompetence on a global scale


8 posted on 05/05/2014 11:00:39 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: varmintman

ping


9 posted on 05/05/2014 11:02:22 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: fishtank

Hmmm, fits into my hypothesis that evolution is biologically directed, not random mutation.


10 posted on 05/05/2014 11:04:52 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Don Corleone
Were they Democrats or Republicans?

They were almost entirely Republicans. Democrats died off quickly back then because welfare, foodstamps, and cushy government gigs hadn't been invented yet.

11 posted on 05/05/2014 11:06:03 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Natufian
"When did this reclassification take place?"

Me too?

I don't know of any changes and I do notice these things.

12 posted on 05/05/2014 11:07:30 AM PDT by blam
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To: fishtank

The question: How can we drive more knowledgeable people away from religion with our clever misinterpretations and ignorance?


13 posted on 05/05/2014 11:10:22 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: grania

All the physical features used to define Neanderthals can be found today in modern humans. For example, the Australian Aborigines have higher, more defined eye brows than did Neanderthals.


14 posted on 05/05/2014 11:10:43 AM PDT by blam
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To: fishtank
Neanderthals Were Not Inferior To Modern Humans, Says CU-Boulder Study
15 posted on 05/05/2014 11:13:22 AM PDT by blam
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To: reasonisfaith
"Such as shape and size"

You might be talking about convergent evolution, as opposed to divergent evolution.

Different species will converge on a shape.

One species of Lemurs, one species of marsupials, and cats have converged on the cat shape.

Birds(Penguins), mammals(seals, etc), and fish have converged on a fish shape

Sharks and dolphins have converged on a shape

16 posted on 05/05/2014 11:21:41 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: blam

Epigenetics is the latest DNA buzzword and since current science seems driven by trendiness beware of new “results” incorporating it. Also be suspicious of new results that seem politically correct such as there are no differences between Neanderthals and modern humans, interbreeding, etc. IMO the results reported by younger scientists are more likely to verify their preconceptions rather than be driven by objectivity. This is based on my 35 years as a research geneticist.


17 posted on 05/05/2014 11:33:52 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

I understand your words of caution about current research, but do you believe that epigenetics isn’t legitimate, at least in the sense that it appears that genetic expression depends in some measure on environmental factors?


18 posted on 05/05/2014 11:37:38 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Louis Foxwell

Fill the pipe with empty space? I don’t believe anyone ever said that modern humans evolved from neanderthals. Neanderthals have always been seen as existing along side of modern man, but as a dead end genetic variant in the tree. They were a physical variant of modern man that before modern genetic research were thought to be a genetically different line of modern humans. They are not and never have been; more along the lines of a racial variation of modern man.


19 posted on 05/05/2014 11:37:45 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: fishtank

The ability to talk about archaic humans and suggesting that we are one species, means that you are making progress. A lot of scientists are wondering if Homo Erectus, with their smaller brain, Neanderthals and us are different versions of each other. At least talking about archaic humans takes you back 400,000 + years. Now, we share 99.7 % of our genes to begin with s there is less to define another species.


20 posted on 05/05/2014 11:53:22 AM PDT by JimSEA
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