Posted on 05/05/2014 7:31:47 AM PDT by Pyro7480
This morning the Supreme Court held in Town of Greece v. Galloway, that the town's practice of beginning legislative sessions with prayers does not violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. It was a 5-4 decision, split along traditional right-left lines.
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And the ACLU
Bingo!
Indeed, which is why we must pray for the health of the Fab Five (even Kennedy) for the next 3 years (absent, of course, Congree doing the right thing and impeaching the son of a bitch).
I grew up in Greece, NY. Good to hear my hometown worked out to be worth a damn.
“These ceremonial prayers strive for the idea that people of many faiths may be united in a community of tolerance and devotion,” Justice Kennedy wrote. “Our tradition assumes that adult citizens, firm in their own beliefs, can tolerate and perhaps appreciate a ceremonial prayer delivered by a person of a different faith.”
Our tradition assumes that adult citizens, firm in their own beliefs, can tolerate and perhaps appreciate a ceremonial prayer delivered by a person of a different faith.
Exactly. I’m old enough to recall prayers at football games (Texas). Whoever arranged them was very ecumenical in that there was a rotation of Protestant ministers, Catholic priests and Jewish rabbis. It didn’t harm anyone to hear the prayers of another faith; in fact, it probably promoted community unity and understanding.
Too bad there are 4 left wing wastes of our time on that Court.
In a sane world, a story like this wouldn’t need to be breaking news (heck, there wouldn’t BE a story like this)....
It’s so profoundly depressing that something this clearcut was a 5-4 decision. It’s not really even a close call from a historical viewpoint. If the Clintons win in 2016, we’ll lose a significant chunk of our “rights”.
We’ve already fallen over that line with some very depraved decisions, such as Roe and Lawrence, etc.
Now waiting on Obama to declare that he “has a pen and a phone” and wants to go nuclear by adding 2 more justices.
“Indeed, which is why we must pray for the health of the Fab Five (even Kennedy) for the next 3 years (absent, of course, Congree doing the right thing and impeaching the son of a bitch).”
We should pray for all of them to remain healthy and happy until the next administration. Replacing an old leftist with a young one wouldn’t do us any favors either. And, personally, I’d change the “(even Kennedy)” to “(even Roberts)”. As much damage as Kennedy has done with his manipulation of the constitution to support the gay rights movement, at least he was coming at things from a personal liberty perspective, as ludicrous as some of his decisions may be. Justice Roberts, OTOH, put a knife in the back of the American public and the entire conservative legal movement with his travesty of a decision on Obamacare. He took the constitutional shackles off of the power of the state, for a few months of good press.
That is why Barry needs to be removed from office and slow joe marginalized until 2016.
There is absolutely no doubt that the prayers are establishing a Federal and/or state religion. What's their problem??
By doing so, they rely on the ignorance of many citizens of America's founding history and of the ideas of liberty which were strongly held and advocated by the man (Jefferson) who authored the Declaration of Independence, with its recognition of a "Creator," of "the laws of nature and of nature's God," of "Divine Providence," and of "Supreme judge of the world," as well as the actual meaning and context of his letter to the Baptists--whose phrase about the "wall of separation" they love to twist and cite as the basis of their prejudice and tyranny against religious expression in the public square!
Perhaps these "progressives" might wish to read and be honest enough to cite this portion of Thomas Jefferson's letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper:
"In our village of Charlottesville, there is a good degree of religion, with a small spice only of fanaticism. We have four sects, but without either church or meeting-house. . . .As for Jefferson's views on a university setting as a place appropriate for open exchange of ideas and of unthreatened expression of religious thought, and to correct a then-false impression that the institution was against religion, he stated:. . . The court-house is the common temple, one Sunday in the month to each. Here, Episcopalian and Presbyterian, Methodist and Baptist, meet together, join in hymning their Maker, listen with attention and devotion to each others' preachers, and all mix in society with perfect harmony.
". . . .In our university you know there is no Professorship of Divinity. A handle has been made of this, to disseminate an idea that this is an institution, not merely of no religion, but against all religion. Occasion was taken at the last meeting of the Visitors, to bring forward an idea that might silence this calumny, which weighed on the minds of some honest friends to the institution. In our annual report to the legislature, after stating the constitutional reasons against a public establishment of any religious instruction, we suggest the expediency of encouraging the different religious sects to establish, each for itself, a professorship of their own tenets, on the confines of the university, so near as that their students may attend the lectures there, and have the free use of our library, and every other accommodation we can give them; preserving, however, their independence of us and of each other. This fills the chasm objected to ours, as a defect in an institution professing to give instruction in all useful sciences. I think the invitation will be accepted, by some sects from candid intentions, and by others from jealousy and rivalship. And by bringing the sects together, and mixing them with the mass of other students, we shall soften their asperities, liberalize and neutralize their prejudices, and make the general religion a religion of peace, reason, and morality." - Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper
Praise be to God!
Very true. I overlooked the age factor.Of course, I especially pray the Kenyan doesn't get another chance to corrupt the USSC.
As with Atheists. Since they “believe” there is no God that makes atheism a religion by definition. And it just breaks their phony little hearts when you define that for them. I’m still waiting for someone to publish the Atheists Prayer? -—starts off with “hello nobody——”?
“A blow to the Prayer Nazis.”
bttt
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