Posted on 04/29/2014 3:16:47 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
Ukraine has stopped supplying water to Crimea through the North Crimean water channel, deputy Prime Minister for Regional Policy Volodymyr Groysman told the Kyiv Post on April 25. Until Russia and Ukraine sign an agreement regulating water supplies to Crimea, Groysman said, water supplies from mainland Ukraine will be cut off.
Crimea relies on the rest of Ukraine for 80-85 percent of the water that it consumes.
"It used to be an integral system, but because of the occupation of Crimea, there is now a question who will pay for the water?" Groysman said.
(Excerpt) Read more at kyivpost.com ...
I wrote that suspicion yesterday and got cyber-shouted down. I suspect that what Soros and the US don't want is an election and that mess in Kiev voted out.
I'm a charter member of the Hard Right. I've never seen Soros/Omidyar/Obama at any of the meetings.
First “coup government” ever, that announces elections within 45 days.
Thanks for introducing this timely and valuable news site.
Are you still up to those kinds of comments?
Yup. and all the hyperpatriots running around the Russia threads spoiling for the good old says of the Cold War intentionally ignore that FACT when they puff out their chests so very impotently.
This whole thing BEGAN when our State Sept tried running an Occupy Ukraine scam.
I agree.
Most Americans, like myself, want to stay out of this. Sanctions is all we should do, although it is probably too little, too late. No arms supplies, though: Obama’s track record at any kind of interventionism, action, acting, etc on foreign policy is horrible at best (look at Libya (Benghazi), Syria, Egytp).
RINOs don’t want people to take this stance, but Israel voted in the UN to basically stay out of this.
“The same water that they denied cutting off a few days ago???”
You either (1) failed to read the aritcle or (2) read the article and deliberately misrepesdented what you read. The actual statement was “will be cut off”, and it DID NOT say ARE cutoff:
“Groysman said, water supplies from mainland Ukraine will be cut off. [....] Interestingly, the State Water Resources Agency denies the stoppage of water supplies to Crimea through the North Crimean channel. It only admits that since April 28 the speed of water flow has slowed it decreased to 11.1 cubic meters per second from 13 cubic meters per second on April 23.”
The agency emphasizes that Crimea still receives water, though there are no legal grounds for that. Since April 28, Crimea started taking away 35 percent more water, according to the agency.
"It used to be an integral system, but because of the occupation of Crimea, there is now a question -- who will pay for the water?" Groysman said.
“IF the US cuts off oil to Japan there might be a war. Oh, wait...”
Given how Japan was planning to wage war upon the United States sometime between 1941 and 1944 regardless of whether or not the United States aided and abetted Japan’s aggressions with continued supplies of war material, the false accusation served as false propaganda for Japan. Now you are reviving the Japanese false proopaganda from the Second World War to use on behalf of the criminal acts by Russia threateneing a potential Third World War.
Just shut it off on principle. They stole your land. Stop the water.
Not withstanding this actually happened awhile back, if your house was on fire or you were really, really thirsty would you rather have water or gas?
“that is most likely coming from Washington.”
What’s the end game?
So far as I can tell, that water comes from a large reservoir on the Dniepre (Dnieper) River, located in a not pro-Russian part of Ukraine. Possibly Ukraine is trying to force Moscow’s hand, to go into a region the Russians would find very costly to hold.
Another angle (I do not know if it is true) is “Russian militants raided through water pumping installations, they laid mines so now Ukrainian technicians can’t access those installations.”
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/maydan/updateapril27.html
If that’s case...
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/maydan/updateapril27.html
Google mapping shows most of the water to Crimea would have to come from two channels: E105 (already looks dry on Google - exact image date unknown) and E97 (still has water in it as of whenever the sat photo was taken.)
Maybe some Freeper has access to more recent images?
The Crimeans should pray for rain.
Eh, well, there’s a major problem developing upstream, anyway...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prydniprovsky_Chemical_Plant_radioactive_dumps
According to the news articles the channels are closed part of the year in the Winter, so they would be expected to be dry during the routine seasonal closures. We also don’t know whether or not the water was flowing at a rate that was low enough to result in sections of the channel going dry in the higher elevatons until enough of the water accumulated in the lower elevations to spill over the tops of the higher elevations. In other words, just because sections of the channel are dry at a particular time does not necessarily indicate the flow of water from the source has been altogether shut off.
Crimea is not valuable territory. It has no water, no oil, no gas, no farmland. It’s a barren rock. Crimea will cost Russia more than it’s worth. Putin stole this territory not because it is strategic or valuable, but because it is a symbol of Russia’s lost glory and greatness. Putin’s Russia is not a great civilization however, but a revanchist, ethnonationalist dictatorship ruled by a stupid murdering thug.
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