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Liquid nicotine: Just a teaspoon could kill
FOX News ^ | March 24, 2014 | Kate Seamons

Posted on 03/24/2014 12:12:58 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It can be bought on the Internet in flavors like chocolate and bubble gum—and just a teaspoon could kill a child: The New York Times takes a look at liquid nicotine, the e-liquid used in e-cigarettes, which it describes as a "powerful neurotoxin ... far more dangerous than tobacco." And with good reason: Reports of accidental liquid nicotine poisonings rose 300% from 2012 to 1,351 cases last year, with 2014's figure expected to be double that.

The victims, many children under the age of four, can experience vomiting and seizures after being exposed to even a modest amount orally or through the skin.

The Minneapolis Star Tribune notes that the bottles often convey their flavors with potentially enticing photos of fruits or chocolate, which could attract youngsters; teens, on the flip side, may be combining it with energy drinks to get high, per Fox News Insider.

"It's not a matter of if a child will be seriously poisoned or killed. It's a matter of when," says a director with California's Poison Control System.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antitobaccoscam; children; ecigs; followthemoney; health; liquidnicotine; nannystate; nicotine; poisoning; scam; smokingiscool
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To: DannyTN; Boogieman
Are you kidding? Smokers fought tooth and nail against every advance the non-smokers pushed.

Once again, spouting things of which you know nothing.

221 posted on 03/24/2014 3:41:14 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: discostu

Here’s some data ...

60 milligrams (one drop) would kill you instantly. The LD/50 (lethal dose) for humans is .9 mg nicotine/ 1 kg of body weight. It would take approx. 45 mg for a 110 lb person or approx. 115 mg for a 285 lb person. Death could be in as little as seconds due to respiratory failure. Very large doses in relation to body weight have been described as near instantaneous.


222 posted on 03/24/2014 3:44:49 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: DannyTN
You and me both. But apparently we're the inconsiderate ones. According to cripplecreek, if you don't wantto breathe second hand smoke or you oppose cigarettes or the behavior of smokers in any way think you have the right to use the government to force people to live the way you think they should, you might as well be exterminating Jews. (See post #85)

Fixed it. :)

223 posted on 03/24/2014 3:46:24 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Boogieman; DannyTN; Drango
So, if the winners can’t be gracious in victory, that shows they never would have been gracious at all.

We see that every time one of these topics come up. We have these people who agree that homosexuality is normal and not harmful to anyone screaming bloody murder and spouting all kinds of untruths about people who enjoy tobacco products.

Talk about ungracious.

224 posted on 03/24/2014 3:51:35 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: lonevoice

ping


225 posted on 03/24/2014 3:55:19 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: Star Traveler

And what I’m pointing out is that due to the way fumes work the fumes WON’T kill you. If the fumes were enough to kill you smoking would do it, because guess that that is: fumes. No people doing their own mixing aren’t talking about killing concentrations, especially NOT at the fumes level. Once it goes fumes the concentration drops dramatically, because it doesn’t all boil at the same time and you’re spreading the same number of molecules over a much higher volume (the whole 1cc of water becomes a lot more than 1cc of steam thing we should all remember from high school).

I don’t care if you want to play with it or not, but when you start saying people shouldn’t play with it because you’re very bad at basic science I’m going to point out that you’re very bad at basic science.


226 posted on 03/24/2014 3:55:48 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: discostu

You can fiddle with those concentrations that will kill people in a room from the fumes themselves - if you want (and it will be your last time ... :-) ... ) — but I’m staying away from it 100%

It ranges from from a few drops killing you, to just one drop killing you, to fumes killing you — all on the basis of concentration levels — ranging from a 10 or 20% level to a 80% or more.

Here’s a highly concentrated form ...

http://www.e-cig.com/e-liquid-pure-nicotine-240ml


227 posted on 03/24/2014 4:05:38 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Gabz; Boogieman

Oh my. Did I fail to genuflect enough for you?


228 posted on 03/24/2014 4:11:15 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Star Traveler

It would seem to me that a whole room of consensual e-smokers could just vaporize this stuff in the room and forget their individual e-ciggies.


229 posted on 03/24/2014 4:13:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: discostu
The difference between those drops and fumes is ingestion. If you DIRECTLY ingest those drops yeah that’ll kill you.

Actually, no.

As one who was using e-cigs back in the past when it took a month to get the e-cig supplies from China, that's not true.

I can't tell you how many times I've drawn too hard from the old 901 models and ended up with a mouthful of nicotine fluid.
To this day, I'm still above ground, so that nicotine fluid isn't really all that toxic.
They do, however, taste like burnt a$$ if you happen to actually taste the stuff.

I'm SO glad that the technology has advanced to the point that we, "Vapers," don't have to worry about that anymore.

We just have to worry about the nannystatists and tobaccophobes who want more control over the lives of free Americans.
230 posted on 03/24/2014 4:16:26 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: -YYZ-
The Canadian government, in its wisdom (while, Health Canada, anyway) has banned the sale of the stuff in Canada.

I don't know where you got your liberal information from but it's bogus.........,

E-Cigs are NOT banned in Canada

231 posted on 03/24/2014 4:19:05 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: jjsheridan5
Nicotine plays a role in that addiction, but nicotine, in and of itself, is at most mildly addictive, and probably not addictive at all.

I think you've been reading too many e-cig forums. Nicotine is highly addictive. This fact is well established science. Tobacco smoking is also highly addictive because smokers become addicted to their smoking behaviors and rituals. There are other addiction promoting substances in cigarettes besides nicotine, that is true, but nicotine is the main culprit. Smoking can be a bio-behavioral addiction.

Nicotine easily circulates throughout the blood and into the brain. It reaches the brain just seconds after inhaling, and only a few cigarettes can create symptoms of dependence. Many studies have shown nicotine to be more addicting than alcohol and cocaine. Not everyone becomes addicted however, and there are people who are able to quit cold turkey without any problem. But that only applies to a small percentage of people. Your post is wishful thinking, but you can find just about anything you want to find on the internet.

232 posted on 03/24/2014 4:21:32 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: cuban leaf
...and just a teaspoon could kill a child...

I can't even bear to think what harm a thimbleful would do to my beloved cat Missy. Pets' rights!

233 posted on 03/24/2014 4:27:23 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: Mase

Oddly enough my own father was a take-it-or-leave-it smoker. One cigarette a week at a “poker party” and never any other time. While my mother habitually smoked herself to death.

I’ve also never found any particular allure in the idea of getting drunk. I think wine tastes nice but getting enough of it to go to my head just makes me feel dull, I get no buzz at all. If every alcohol consumer was like me, nobody’d ever get drunk.

I wish I could say I had that degree of self control in all temptations.


234 posted on 03/24/2014 4:28:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Lets get rid of all products that could kill children...

Ban it for the children....


235 posted on 03/24/2014 4:30:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
The most harmful of all...is the abortionists.

That "For the Kids" kinda doesn't hold up, does it.

236 posted on 03/24/2014 4:37:55 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: DannyTN

“But we still don’t want to breath second hand nicotine in any form. “

Then go somewhere else. No one will stop you, I promise. In fact they will probably open the door for you.


237 posted on 03/24/2014 4:42:48 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: DannyTN
The FDA has said that second hand e-cig vapors are a health hazard. What part of that do you not understand?

Please cite the actual studies that show this. I'd be really interested in some speculative fiction.

I wouldn't trust the FDA to speak my weight.

238 posted on 03/24/2014 4:48:30 PM PDT by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: Sacajaweau

Yes it does hold up, but only for the things they want banned...What you want is irrelevant and meaningless to them.


239 posted on 03/24/2014 4:51:39 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Drango
You are remembering the bad old (smoking) days the same way that I do.

The days when everyone smoked and they smoked everywhere. Never a “do you mind if I smoke?” It was miserable and the non smokers accepted it.

Thankfully those days are gone.

As far as SMOKING SECTIONS are concerned, they don't work the smoke goes everywhere.

Whine on smokers, this non smoker can't hear you!

240 posted on 03/24/2014 5:05:22 PM PDT by Ditter
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