Posted on 03/20/2014 8:33:23 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister
In a recent paper, Lubinski and his colleagues caught up with one cohort of 320 people now in their late 30s. At 12, their SAT math or verbal scores had placed them among the top one-100th of 1 percent. Today, many are CEOs, professors at top research universities, transplant surgeons, and successful novelists.
That outcome sounds like exactly what you’d imagine should happen: Top young people grow into high-achieving adults. In the education world, the study has provided important new evidence that it really is possible to identify the kids who are likely to become exceptional achievers in the future, something previous research has not always found to be the case. But for that reason, perhaps surprisingly, it has also triggered a new round of worry.
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>>The whole concept of equal outcomes is centered around not hurting the feelings of people who have made all the wrong choices in life/society. The girl who ruts like an animal in heat is certainly not as good as the girl who stays chaste and reads instead of ruts. Yet, the rutting girl isn’t supposed to be made to feel bad about her life and bad about her choices. So we tear own the girl who reads to the level of the rutting whore.<<
BOOM! Well said, FRiend. I’m sick and tired of everything being reduced to the level of the lowest common denominator.
Today’s gifted children - the last thing they need is more money thrown at the schools. They need to be homeschooled.
“You didn’t do that” — Thief in Chief (liberty, money, whatever)
Perfect response.......because, you know.....
only the collective “we” accomplishes anything....with the leaders reaping the benefits
and this is why Jesse Bauer, Susan Wise Bauer's mother, started homeschooling her children back in the 1970s when nobody was doing it...
and this is why Jesse Bauer, Susan Wise Bauer's mother, started homeschooling her children back in the 1970s when nobody was doing it...
It's not fair that some people are smarter and achieve more than others.
My son is very high IQ and my daughter has a learning disability. The school system did an excellent job of providing for my daughter. She manages quite well despite of her disability. My son, another story. He was bored and he sort of checked out. His junior year he took the SAT and went to college. His lowest score on the SAT was 98 percentile. He is a successful father, husband, employee. Does he live up to his potential - no way.
When I saw this start with my grandson (in kindergarten no less) I became the grandmother from hell. So far, so good. He is in gifted classes in a school where the teacher makes sure she stays ahead of him. He is spreading his wings and flying. The bad news is that its a constant struggle to provide what he needs. He will have to change schools in 4th grade since the one he is currently in will have no program for him beyond 3rd.
Here’s a good one - the school system in the state where he lives decided that the gifted classes were too white and Asian and needed more diversity. So they created “soft” requirements, so that a more diverse student body would be in gifted classes. Naturally, most of those students who meet on the “soft” requirements are unable to keep up and ask to be returned to regular classes. In the meantime, students who qualify academically for the gifted classes are in the regular classes because there are no seats available.
I homeschooled our son, an only child. All you have to do is walk through your front door and there are a bazillion people to ‘socialize’ with. We did field trips, park days, get-togethers with friends, Scouts. Think back 150 years. There were kids growing up in log cabins and soddies. Did they have to get together with 300 kids every day to learn how to live life? NO, they spent the day with their parents. Somehow they got by.
Think through how you define ‘socialization’ and you will very quickly see that it is an empty word tossed around that really means nothing. Kids do not raise other kids; adults raise kids, and train them to be adults.
What in the world are you talking about? Open your eyes. The constant cheerleading for women, for is obvious. Every form of marketing, public schooling, or government communication, is totally biased in favor of women. College entrance and graduation rates are way over represented by women.
well said
I taught in public schools, then ran screaming. Homeschooled our son and then considered getting a degree in Gifted Ed. The more I explored it, the less I liked it. The concept itself is honorable, but the formula is the same - pour more money into the same exact WAYS of teaching. Besides which, 95% of education money goes into Special Ed, so there’s no funding anyway. Besides which, it is considered ‘elitist’ to even want your kid to be in Gifted Ed.
I am now tutoring 1:1, essentially homeschooling the students I work with, trying to light the fire of the love of learning in each one. To anyone who considers it, I enthusiastically urge homeschooling as a remedy for ALL that ails their kids.
The entire public school system is rotten to the core and has been for generations. John Dewey and all that; Progressing America has posted many well researched articles about the topic. The public school system was designed to create drones that further socialism. It was not designed to further childrens’ intelligence, rational thinking, knowledge or character. It’s doomed. Has to be scrapped.
My parents moved around a lot and every year I went to a new school except 7th and 8th grade. I was a “new kid” my entire school career. It was another horrible aspect of my public school life.
Actually in 6th grade I lived overseas and attended a school run by a couple of British school teachers. It had an interntational student body; it was small although I can’t remember the numbers. We had prayer and hymn singing in the morning, and strict discipline. I loved that school, all the public school years I hated like poison.
Kids is the problem. Women are in prime child-bearing years at 15-25. Young men commanded armies or started careers in their early teens. We’ve made permanent children via government education progroms. I didn’t misspell programs.
Not just treated with "disdain" by the elites -- middle-class gifted children are hated and feared by the elites, because they are competition to their OWN little darlings.
There's a phenomenon called "regression towards the mean". It means that the children of the very successful will not necessarily be as smart as their parents (but probably will still be above-average). How do they ensure their own next generation will be able to retain their positions in the halls of power? By making it harder for the exceptional children of the lower classes to not get the opportunity to successfully compete.
No amount of fertilizer will make a maple tree grow as tall as an oak. The only way to keep them "equal" is to take an ax to the oak.
From the tone of the article it is all about benefiting the socialist “hive”.
Gee! What about the kid?
Before rejecting homeschooling get the facts about “socialization”. One of the worse mistakes a parent can make is to make the worng choice based on faulty information.
To me, this article reads like yet another attempted justification for more federal funds - this time for the “poor, neglected gifted” children. (lol)
There are honors classes, advanced placement classes, college courses open to high school students, etc. If a student is so ahead of the class that even those special classes do not adequately meet his or her educational needs, the student should just go to college. That seems like a solution to the problem.
For the record, one of my sons scored in the top 1% on the SAT. No federal funds were necessary to meet his needs. He didn’t even go to school, with the exception of a few math courses at a local college, and is mostly self-taught. His whole curriculum consisted largely of used books, discounted books, free books, borrowed books, and me driving him to activities. Sure, I would’ve liked to have been able to afford more for him, but he had to be content with what we as a family could manage. Should the rest of you have been made to foot the bill?
“The smartest kids, without social skills that match their intellectual capacity, have been ignored, made fun of or beat up since the beginning of time.”
Strict proof of the above is requested.
PS Home schooled students are the best socialized.
PPS Good for gifted, too.
I agree that most of that is true in most locations, but primarily at the high school level, which is a lot more individualized and self-directed than lower grades in the first place. In my experience there is often far less done for gifted K-6 kids, and to some degree junior high as well.
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