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The poor neglected gifted child
The Boston Globe ^ | March 16, 2014 | By Amy Crawford

Posted on 03/20/2014 8:33:23 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister

In a recent paper, Lubinski and his colleagues caught up with one cohort of 320 people now in their late 30s. At 12, their SAT math or verbal scores had placed them among the top one-100th of 1 percent. Today, many are CEOs, professors at top research universities, transplant surgeons, and successful novelists.

That outcome sounds like exactly what you’d imagine should happen: Top young people grow into high-achieving adults. In the education world, the study has provided important new evidence that it really is possible to identify the kids who are likely to become exceptional achievers in the future, something previous research has not always found to be the case. But for that reason, perhaps surprisingly, it has also triggered a new round of worry.

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To: little jeremiah

I was also reading before I reported for kindergarten, which was a boring waste of time for me. There were no special classes and my elementary school teachers were either too lazy or too unprepared to deal with a gifted child. I raced ahead of the other kids in class projects and got bored. So I spent a lot of time out in the hall. That’s what they knew what to do with a gifted child who was bored and therefore not conforming to “hands on desk, sitting still” mode. Put them out into the hall. There were no enrichment classes or honors classes available until high school. Today, I would certainly have been earning college credits while still in high school, but they did not have those programs around in the sleepy Midwestern town where I grew up.


41 posted on 03/20/2014 10:12:18 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

They didn’t have kindergarten for every kid when I was growing up in the 50s.

I am entirely self taught, as far as it goes... according to regular standards, I am a failure, as I am very poor. But I don’t feel poor as I have many varied interests which I avidly follow and have taught myself many things from herbalism to various musical instruments to writing many poems and have more plans and ideas than I can do in my remaining years. I’ve only had a tv 2 years in my adult life and never watch movies. Too boring, and life’s too short.

I do spend too much time reading news on the internet, though, I need to fix that!


42 posted on 03/20/2014 10:17:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: woofie

As I recall from one of the original surveys of this kind, one of the subjects took a downward arc, and ended as a recluse obsessed with his collection of subway tokens.


43 posted on 03/20/2014 10:23:29 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: jameslalor; montanajoe
Today’s gifted children, ignored by our schools and treated with disdain and disgust by liberal elites, could be our future Newtons and Galileos. We’re throwing away the future because we refuse to encourage the more-able to do everything they can with their God-Given Gifts.

I wholeheartedly believe that in these last days, God has a particular purpose for those who are gifted yet have been shut out by the world.

Who knows how many of them are out there. Bored and unchallenged from birth, with unmet potential. Perhaps wired from their school experiences to be slack and unproductive, simply because their intellect and gifts were never realized much less encouraged or engaged.

God Himself is going to harness this untapped resource to fight the forces of Amalek (read: Obama). Finally challenged and tasked with a *God-given* righteous purpose, these "misfits" will rise to the occasion. God bless and keep them.

Obama and his malevolent hordes have no idea what kind of army they will face. FUBO.

The scene in Addams Family Values, when the lowly camp "rejects" burn the village to the ground, is a good window into the future. Nice touch with the Jewish kid. ;-)

44 posted on 03/20/2014 10:25:34 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: little jeremiah
I do spend too much time reading news on the internet, though, I need to fix that!

Try switching off to video games ... just go light on the energy drinks !

45 posted on 03/20/2014 10:29:59 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: conservative cat

I have known several brilliant people who have chosen very normal lives. Intelligence isn’t the only indicator of exceptional success.


46 posted on 03/20/2014 10:32:51 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: CorporateStepsister

Yeah. I grew up in a lower middle income household with parents who did not expect too much and didn’t really push me to excell at anything, God bless them. They didn’t come from that kind of stock either. Neither one went to college. Couple that with being socially awkward (very shy possible aspergers) and having hormonal problems that caused some cosmetic issues. I didn’t have a very happy childhood. Always picked last for gym teams, unless it was my best friend choosing. Got snickered at by boys, looked down the nose at by girls, or they wanted to beat me up for some/no reason. I always wondered what I could have gone on to acheive with a better environment. I think a lot of people do:)


47 posted on 03/20/2014 10:50:01 PM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: little jeremiah

Thank you; I just want the US to stop promoting ignorance in women, as if being scientific is something to be ashamed of. Even the Russians had female snipers during WWII. I just wish the US would utilize the scientific half of our country more, in women. We need to value and appreciate the need for our finest minds to be tapped and nurtured.


48 posted on 03/20/2014 11:13:33 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: kelly4c

It’s all about the environment and really, I believe that you in some ways described my life in a nutshell. Minus physical attacks, my daily crucifixion was when I had to go to Interior Design class.


49 posted on 03/20/2014 11:15:02 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: dr_lew

The unabomber was a bright lad


50 posted on 03/20/2014 11:30:40 PM PDT by woofie
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To: CorporateStepsister
I just want the US to stop promoting ignorance in women, as if being scientific is something to be ashamed of.

Yeah, and I just want the Venusians to stop beaming bad thoughts into my head.

51 posted on 03/20/2014 11:36:24 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: CorporateStepsister

PING


52 posted on 03/20/2014 11:45:39 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: metmom; winter

Ping.


53 posted on 03/21/2014 1:08:20 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: CorporateStepsister; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; adopt4Christ; ...

Both a homeschool and another reason to homeschool ping.


54 posted on 03/21/2014 1:30:04 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: EinNYC; little jeremiah
I was also reading before I reported for kindergarten, which was a boring waste of time for me. There were no special classes and my elementary school teachers were either too lazy or too unprepared to deal with a gifted child. I raced ahead of the other kids in class projects and got bored. So I spent a lot of time out in the hall. That’s what they knew what to do with a gifted child who was bored and therefore not conforming to “hands on desk, sitting still” mode. Put them out into the hall. There were no enrichment classes or honors classes available until high school. Today, I would certainly have been earning college credits while still in high school, but they did not have those programs around in the sleepy Midwestern town where I grew up.

Hence one of the main reasons for homeschooling.

My kids were reading at 4 and 5 and by 6 were easily reading at a 6th grade level.

No way was I sending them to public school with the kids next door who didn't know their colors, couldn't count, who could hardly put together a coherent sentence, and were being molested by mom's current live in boyfriend. (who was eventually thrown in jail for it)

55 posted on 03/21/2014 1:37:21 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: kelly4c
Always picked last for gym teams, unless it was my best friend choosing. Got snickered at by boys, looked down the nose at by girls, or they wanted to beat me up for some/no reason.

You don't need to have any health issues to have endured that.

Simply being new in a school district entering 7th grade is enough for that.

Junior high was hell and senior high wasn't much better.

Simply another reason to homeschool. I wouldn't put my kids through that for anything.

56 posted on 03/21/2014 1:41:03 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: CorporateStepsister
being socially adept is a requirement for success

Sadly, those who are too capable are handily rejected by those who are not. If they have not managed to become the cool person to be emulated, they will be shoved aside, even violently rejected by a social circle which finds them threatening. Mediocrity has its way of prevailing, and the fat part of the bell curve will win out in the scrum. Either the gifted are practically worshiped or they are marginalized, especially in school systems which are not geared to deal with those who can learn far more far faster than the teachers and administrators can cope with.

I thank The Almighty I finished High School in a private school where most courses were taught on the Keller Plan (master a packet of material and move on to the next). I was among a few of my classmates who finished chemistry and physics about halfway through the school year. We had enough else to keep us occupied and out of trouble as well.

57 posted on 03/21/2014 1:53:14 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: metmom

I am hoping my daughter does not put my grandson in the public school system when the time comes. But I know she won’t homeschool, and he’s an only child so he would not get enough stimulation anyways. I am hoping we can find a private school that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. I assume that even though they aren’t perfect it would be a better alternative?

But yeah, looking back there was really no good reason I was picked on. The only “problem” was being a sensitive and introverted child. I don’t know if it’s our culture or the same around the world...but it does seem like one must be outgoing and confident if they want to escape ridicule.


58 posted on 03/21/2014 1:57:40 AM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: CorporateStepsister
Our son took the SAT at age 12 and scored high enough to be admitted to even some Ivy League schools. He was an honor student in college and graduated magna cum laude from law school and is now a successful attorney. While he was in primary school the talented and gifted programs were phased out.

My wife, a former school nurse, has said the real losers are the average kids. The talented and gifted students will succeed on their own, but with massive amounts of school resources being spent on the learning disabled it is the average kids who are being shortchanged.

As a school nurse, my wife had to provide nursing care to special needs students at almost a hospital level. She spent part of each day traveling by cab to the student's home helped load the student into the cab and monitored them in transit by cab to the school. This was repeated after school completed for the day. She monitored several students who were functioning at little more than a vegetative state. Yet these students were "mainstreamed" into regular classrooms with their "work" being done by teacher's aides. She often said that the school district was simply providing free babysitting services to these students until they were 21.

59 posted on 03/21/2014 2:30:33 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ
She often said that the school district was simply providing free babysitting services to these students until they were 21.

that's exactly what is being done.

There is no other reason to put these kids in school.

60 posted on 03/21/2014 4:33:58 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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