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Gov. Terry McAuliffe's First Veto Is Against Gun Owners
Breitbart ^ | 3/19/14 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 03/19/2014 7:55:27 PM PDT by Nachum

On March 19th Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe (D) used his first veto to strike down a bill "meant to clarify state law" regarding how gun owners without a concealed carry permit may store firearms in a vehicle.

The bill, HB 962, was sponsored by Delegate Benjamin L. Cline (R-Rockbridge).

According to the Richmond Times-Dispatch, the bill said "the weapon would be considered secured if it was in a container or compartment – such as console or glove compartment – that was closed but not necessarily locked."

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; mcauliffe; mcauliffes; mcawful; terry; va2014; vageneralassembly; veto
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To: Nachum

i think all we have to do is see if the last 50-60 years of gun laws have made life harder for law abiding citizens to exercise their rights, or made it easier,

and then we can clearly see if that right is being infringed or not. i think everyone here knows where i stand. if you don’t read the tagline.


21 posted on 03/19/2014 10:11:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Portcall24

Nothing like a goose stepper. One of the elitist from the left that sponsors on demand murder of the unborn. amazing how these idiots get elected.


22 posted on 03/19/2014 10:19:48 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: House Atreides
Well, maybe the Republican candidate has to win by 15% now-—to account for the Losertarian candidate placed on the ballot with help from the DemocRATS. Nice going Virginia-—enjoy your lives under your new progressive overlords.

That's EXACTLY right. I forgot about that. You are 100% correct. FAKE LOSERTARIANS fooled the fools.

The only time it worked in our favor is Nader helping Bush win Florida in 2000.

23 posted on 03/19/2014 10:42:21 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Portcall24

Seriously? That needed to be clarified? They’ve been citing people for violating the CCW rules for guns in their cars??


24 posted on 03/19/2014 10:52:03 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

“You also ask whether a center console, glove compartment or any other “ container or compartment’’ must be locked to constitute a “ secured container or compartment.” The legislative history of the 2010 amendment shows that the container or compartment storing the handgun need not be locked for the exception to apply. When § 18.2-308 was amended to include § 18.2-308(B)(10), “ locked in a container or compattment’’ was considered as possible statutory language; 13 however, “ secured in a container or compartment” was the wording that was ultimately adopted. 14 By choosing “ secured” instead of “ locked,” the General Assembly evinced its intention that a handgun may be carried in a vehicle without requiring the container or compartment storing it to be locked.”

http://www.oag.state.va.us/Opinions%20and%20Legal%20Resources/Opinions/2012opns/11-111%20Newman.pdf

This was given as an opinion by the previous AG, Ken Cuccinelli. The problem is that we have a Rat AG now, and people are worried that his interpretation will be the opposite of Cuccinelli’s, so the legislature tried to clarify it, but their clarification was vetoed by McAwful.


25 posted on 03/19/2014 10:53:46 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: bunkerhill7

Traditional Virginians did not elect this governor. Va. has gone the way of NY. Welcome to the “Brave New World”.


26 posted on 03/20/2014 2:22:44 AM PDT by MountainYankee
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To: logi_cal869

2 points.

1. If it is locked up, it is not accessible.

2. It is MY car.


27 posted on 03/20/2014 2:49:31 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: There's millions of'em

Spot on.

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”
-Atlas Shrugged


28 posted on 03/20/2014 2:51:16 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Been look for that quote. thxs. :-)

29 posted on 03/20/2014 2:56:30 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Nachum

We keep getting robo calls from Rove’s group about what a disaster McAwful is....
The frustrating aspect is not being able to say that if they had supported Cuch, we wouldn’t be in this mess...and tell them this is what they wanted.
Screw them all.....


30 posted on 03/20/2014 5:57:25 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Zeneta

Bless your heart but from what I see and know about No VA, it probably would not have made a diff.
With govt workers on the govt boob, illegals voting unchallenged, liberal sensibilities running rampant and unchecked development, once again, we have a relatively small geographic area dictating policies to the rest of the state.
Also, until the Opposition Party takes voter fraud seriously, there will never be an honest election. (Example: Herring’s win)


31 posted on 03/20/2014 6:04:50 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: logi_cal869

That’s some seriously tortured logic right there.


32 posted on 03/20/2014 6:10:24 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Ignorance is bliss and wears a striped suit with pink underwear


33 posted on 03/20/2014 6:15:02 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: VanShuyten
This was given as an opinion by the previous AG, Ken Cuccinelli. The problem is that we have a Rat AG now, and people are worried that his interpretation will be the opposite of Cuccinelli’s, so the legislature tried to clarify it, but their clarification was vetoed by McAwful

Thanks. Quite frankly I wasn't sure just what the OP was advocating for.

It's pretty sad that they have to continuously try to erode our rights by semantic games (secured or locked). With good guys, neither way matters. They have no nefarious motive whether the gun is "secured" or "locked" (though locked is just idiotic). With bad guys, they don't care what the law is.

34 posted on 03/20/2014 6:24:40 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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