Gov. Terry McAuliffe's First Veto Is Against Gun Owners

Breitbart ^ | 3/19/14 | AWR Hawkins

[Nachum]

On March 19th Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe (D) used his first veto to strike down a bill "meant to clarify state law" regarding how gun owners without a concealed carry permit may store firearms in a vehicle.

The bill, HB 962, was sponsored by Delegate Benjamin L. Cline (R-Rockbridge).

According to the Richmond Times-Dispatch, the bill said "the weapon would be considered secured if it was in a container or compartment – such as console or glove compartment – that was closed but not necessarily locked."

[Secret Agent Man]

i think all we have to do is see if the last 50-60 years of gun laws have made life harder for law abiding citizens to exercise their rights, or made it easier,

and then we can clearly see if that right is being infringed or not. i think everyone here knows where i stand. if you don’t read the tagline.

[Busko]

Nothing like a goose stepper. One of the elitist from the left that sponsors on demand murder of the unborn. amazing how these idiots get elected.

[Captainpaintball]

Well, maybe the Republican candidate has to win by 15% now-—to account for the Losertarian candidate placed on the ballot with help from the DemocRATS. Nice going Virginia-—enjoy your lives under your new progressive overlords.

That's EXACTLY right. I forgot about that. You are 100% correct. FAKE LOSERTARIANS fooled the fools.

The only time it worked in our favor is Nader helping Bush win Florida in 2000.

[Still Thinking]

Seriously? That needed to be clarified? They’ve been citing people for violating the CCW rules for guns in their cars??

[VanShuyten]

“You also ask whether a center console, glove compartment or any other “ container or compartment’’ must be locked to constitute a “ secured container or compartment.” The legislative history of the 2010 amendment shows that the container or compartment storing the handgun need not be locked for the exception to apply. When § 18.2-308 was amended to include § 18.2-308(B)(10), “ locked in a container or compattment’’ was considered as possible statutory language; 13 however, “ secured in a container or compartment” was the wording that was ultimately adopted. 14 By choosing “ secured” instead of “ locked,” the General Assembly evinced its intention that a handgun may be carried in a vehicle without requiring the container or compartment storing it to be locked.”

http://www.oag.state.va.us/Opinions%20and%20Legal%20Resources/Opinions/2012opns/11-111%20Newman.pdf

This was given as an opinion by the previous AG, Ken Cuccinelli. The problem is that we have a Rat AG now, and people are worried that his interpretation will be the opposite of Cuccinelli’s, so the legislature tried to clarify it, but their clarification was vetoed by McAwful.

[MountainYankee]

Traditional Virginians did not elect this governor. Va. has gone the way of NY. Welcome to the “Brave New World”.

[Red in Blue PA]

2 points.

1. If it is locked up, it is not accessible.

2. It is MY car.

[Red in Blue PA]

Spot on.

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”
-Atlas Shrugged

[skinkinthegrass]

Been look for that quote. thxs. :-)

[matginzac]

We keep getting robo calls from Rove’s group about what a disaster McAwful is....
The frustrating aspect is not being able to say that if they had supported Cuch, we wouldn’t be in this mess...and tell them this is what they wanted.
Screw them all.....

[matginzac]

Bless your heart but from what I see and know about No VA, it probably would not have made a diff.
With govt workers on the govt boob, illegals voting unchallenged, liberal sensibilities running rampant and unchecked development, once again, we have a relatively small geographic area dictating policies to the rest of the state.
Also, until the Opposition Party takes voter fraud seriously, there will never be an honest election. (Example: Herring’s win)

[Trailerpark Badass]

That’s some seriously tortured logic right there.

[logi_cal869]

Ignorance is bliss and wears a striped suit with pink underwear

[VeniVidiVici]

This was given as an opinion by the previous AG, Ken Cuccinelli. The problem is that we have a Rat AG now, and people are worried that his interpretation will be the opposite of Cuccinelli’s, so the legislature tried to clarify it, but their clarification was vetoed by McAwful

Thanks. Quite frankly I wasn't sure just what the OP was advocating for.

It's pretty sad that they have to continuously try to erode our rights by semantic games (secured or locked). With good guys, neither way matters. They have no nefarious motive whether the gun is "secured" or "locked" (though locked is just idiotic). With bad guys, they don't care what the law is.