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Gov. Terry McAuliffe's First Veto Is Against Gun Owners
Breitbart ^ | 3/19/14 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 03/19/2014 7:55:27 PM PDT by Nachum

On March 19th Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe (D) used his first veto to strike down a bill "meant to clarify state law" regarding how gun owners without a concealed carry permit may store firearms in a vehicle.

The bill, HB 962, was sponsored by Delegate Benjamin L. Cline (R-Rockbridge).

According to the Richmond Times-Dispatch, the bill said "the weapon would be considered secured if it was in a container or compartment – such as console or glove compartment – that was closed but not necessarily locked."

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; mcauliffe; mcauliffes; mcawful; terry; va2014; vageneralassembly; veto
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1 posted on 03/19/2014 7:55:28 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Just the beginning from this piece of crap Hillary wanna-be.


2 posted on 03/19/2014 7:57:59 PM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Nachum

My grandfather drove a buckboard to town with a rifle under his seat every day before cars were here.

I drove a `51 Dodge with a .22 LR, open bolt, in the rear window so the NY State troopers could see it, 50 years ago.

Both were the gov accepted norm/law/right of the day.

These govs/cronies Obummer, NY CT VA CA are communists.

They have to be removed from office...throw out the bums and throw out these anti-constitutional “phony laws”


3 posted on 03/19/2014 8:08:32 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Nachum

Elections have consequences. IIRC it is the Beltway crowd around DC that drew in the votes to get McAwful elected.

Too bad for regular Virginia folk...


4 posted on 03/19/2014 8:10:35 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Nachum

As a lifelong Virginian in Fairfax County, we understand in a very deep way the culture clash between us and our liberal friends on the other side of the river.

There is absolutely no reason for anybody that lives in Virginia to ever go into Maryland, ever.

Ok, maybe for a Redskins game and when the Caps where playing at the Cap Center, other than that and even for family, there is no other reason.

I sent Ken Cuccinelli an email during his election bid and suggested that he paint McAuliffe as some one that will turn VA into MD. This could have or would have been a winning strategy.

For those that are not from the area I’m certain those that are, can attest to the cultural divide that exists between these two states.


5 posted on 03/19/2014 8:10:54 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Nachum

Too bad Virginians. You let the illegals in, and didn’t fight hard enough. You probably let them get away with cheating, too. A Repugnican’t has to win by 10% now, to win by 3%.


6 posted on 03/19/2014 8:24:51 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Nachum
the Stainless Banner isn't so stainless now...
7 posted on 03/19/2014 8:35:11 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Nachum
McAuliffe wanted the bill to say that individuals without concealed carry permits had to have the gun (handgun/pistol) locked in a compartment, not just secured.

I absolutely hate that I'm going to type this...

...but I can't argue with that.

Damn Breitbart's staff for making me agree with that a$$hat. Is this where that site's going? Hype?

Text of Virginia HB962:

Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia: 1. That § 18.2-308 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows: § 18.2-308. Carrying concealed weapons; exceptions; penalty. A. If any person carries about his person, hidden from common observation, (i) any pistol, revolver, or other weapon designed or intended to propel a missile of any kind by action of an explosion of any combustible material; (ii) any dirk, bowie knife, switchblade knife, ballistic knife, machete, razor, slingshot, spring stick, metal knucks, or blackjack; (iii) any flailing instrument consisting of two or more rigid parts connected in such a manner as to allow them to swing freely, which may be known as a nun chahka, nun chuck, nunchaku, shuriken, or fighting chain; (iv) any disc, of whatever configuration, having at least two points or pointed blades which is designed to be thrown or propelled and which may be known as a throwing star or oriental dart; or (v) any weapon of like kind as those enumerated in this subsection, he is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. A second violation of this section or a conviction under this section subsequent to any conviction under any substantially similar ordinance of any county, city, or town shall be punishable as a Class 6 felony, and a third or subsequent such violation shall be punishable as a Class 5 felony. For the purpose of this section, a weapon shall be deemed to be hidden from common observation when it is observable but is of such deceptive appearance as to disguise the weapon's true nature. It shall be an affirmative defense to a violation of clause (i) regarding a handgun, that a person had been issued, at the time of the offense, a valid concealed handgun permit.

B. This section shall not apply to any person while in his own place of abode or the curtilage thereof.

C. Except as provided in subsection A of § 18.2-308.012, this section shall not apply to:

See the rest here...
8 posted on 03/19/2014 8:37:37 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Captainpaintball

No it is the legal immigrants that are voting Dem. Virginia is a purple state trending solid blue within a decade. We are outnumbered. It will be very difficult for a Rep to win a statewide race.


9 posted on 03/19/2014 8:38:39 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Nachum

That commie sumb|tch is going to keep on, until he finally maneuvers around to where he ends concealed carry in Virginia. Count on it.


10 posted on 03/19/2014 8:39:57 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Nachum

Gun control laws have only one purpose: to criminalize conservatives and isolate them as “bad people”.


11 posted on 03/19/2014 8:41:50 PM PDT by There's millions of'em (Tis a relentless battle for freedom)
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To: Nachum

As long as we still have Louisville Sluggers to set these clowns straight.

No sense giving them an excuse to round up the good stuff.


12 posted on 03/19/2014 8:44:00 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: Nachum
Oops...forgot the pertinent 'exception':

10. Any person who may lawfully possess a firearm and is carrying a handgun while in a personal, private motor vehicle or vessel and such handgun is secured in a container or compartment in the vehicle or vessel. For purposes of this subsection, the term "compartment" includes a console, glove compartment, or any other area within or on the vehicle or vessel that possesses the ability to be closed and the term "secured" means that a container or compartment be closed but not necessarily locked; and

13 posted on 03/19/2014 8:45:39 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

You and Terry deserve each other.


14 posted on 03/19/2014 8:49:35 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: logi_cal869

What good is it if it’s locked up and not accessible?

Will the gangbangers be locking up their guns before and after their drive-bys?


15 posted on 03/19/2014 8:55:41 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: logi_cal869

You’ve lost me. What’s your point?


16 posted on 03/19/2014 9:00:11 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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“Concealed” is the key word.

NOT OC.

Read the Bill.


17 posted on 03/19/2014 9:00:27 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Portcall24

Thank you Libertarians and others using a another party gravy train scam.


18 posted on 03/19/2014 9:05:42 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: ozzymandus; smokingfrog; VeniVidiVici

I’m not going to debate this. Flame away, I could give a crap. My final statement:

I’m a minority in a prog state, have a CC and know the laws of all the states through which I may travel. I find it’s maddening my state has no reciprocity; I have to know the laws in my state as well as know & abide by the general gun laws of those other states. I hope Virginia has preemption, but it matters not to me as I will never drive through that state. Frankly I think Texas’ laws should be adopted nationwide and there be 50-state reciprocity.

If I didn’t have my CC it would be OC, secured, or always on my way to the range....and secured would be in a lockbox or range bag in the trunk. Too many guns get stolen as crimes of opportunity from lazy gun owners’ cars. I’m not advocating nanny state, but simply stating a handgun not in a holster or on the adjacent seat should be in a lockbox or in a (range) bag/container in the trunk.

That’s common sense in my book. If the laws get more restrictive in my state, as they keep trying to do, I’m forfeiting my CC and OCing EVERYWHERE; I WILL end up on the news, guaranteed.

Not good enough? TS


19 posted on 03/19/2014 9:27:24 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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“Too bad Virginians. You let the illegals in, and didn’t fight hard enough. You probably let them get away with cheating, too. A Repugnican’t has to win by 10% now, to win by 3%.”
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Well, maybe the Republican candidate has to win by 15% now-—to account for the Losertarian candidate placed on the ballot with help from the DemocRATS. Nice going Virginia-—enjoy your lives under your new progressive overlords.


20 posted on 03/19/2014 9:40:18 PM PDT by House Atreides
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