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How will things change in Crimea if it joins Russia?
Washinton Post ^ | 3.15.2014 | Tiffany Harness

Posted on 03/16/2014 12:31:40 PM PDT by mac_truck

Let’s start with money matters. Who will pay the pensions of retirees who paid into the Ukrainian system?

Voters are being told that Russia will assume the obligations for all pensions, with a big leap in benefits. For example, the average monthly pension in Russia is said to be about $270, almost double the $150 paid in the average Ukrainian’s monthly pension. And the retirement age will drop by five years, to 60 for men and 55 for women.

And what about schools?

Schoolchildren are expected to get new history books with a more outsize section on Russian history and its version of events, such as World War II, which Russians and Crimeans refer to as the “Great Patriotic War.” Officials say that for the next year, at least, Crimeans will be allowed to enroll at Russian universities without taking an entrance exam. Next year, they will have to take the regular Russian enrollment exam.

Will people working in government offices, schools and hospitals lose their jobs?

Authorities have vowed that nobody who is doing satisfactory work will be fired, and most will get raises.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: constitution; crimea; crimeacrisis; crimeareferendum; putinsbuttboys; russia; secession; surrendermonkeys; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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To: mac_truck

Well, for one, the hordes of Russian sailors new to this warm-water port will demand thousands of comfort women and plenty of vodka bars.


21 posted on 03/16/2014 2:42:10 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: mac_truck

Russia’s elite have been in Crimea since 1774, first in battle than as annexation by Catherine the Great in 1783. There are approximately 7 palaces of the Czars in Crimea. Come now how much different will Crimea be. Currently the Ukraine is financially broke> It is a no brainer for the Russkies in Crimea to go the way of Russia. ( I do not believe they will benefit Russia is financial strapped itself).


22 posted on 03/16/2014 2:50:12 PM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: goldstategop

Who is voting besides the ethnic Russians? It is a majority Russian Province with 42% others - a significant number. Who is doing the counting? The deal stunk for non Russians. But then, I suppose that is the point.

We’ll see which Provence is next. The greatest Russian ethnic population outside Crimea is just under 40%. Yet, the Russians are giving every appearance of going into Donetsk to rescue their fellow Russians.


23 posted on 03/16/2014 3:19:06 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: goldstategop

Assuming, of course, Putin doesn’t start a war with Ukraine or Crimean Tatars, because you know what a magnet to tourism and trade a war zone is.

Also, Putin invested billions into Sochi, so he needs the people to go there, not Crimea. Three quarters of tourists were coming from Ukraine. There was nothing stopping Russians from coming, instead they went to Greece, Turkey, Cyprus etc.


24 posted on 03/16/2014 3:30:53 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: mac_truck

Narva, Estonia: about 87 % ethnic Russian. Just sayin.


25 posted on 03/16/2014 3:37:01 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: ncalburt

buzz off you twit!


26 posted on 03/16/2014 4:21:39 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck

California is how many percent Mexican now? These scum MFers that intentionally changed the face of America to purposely divide us with their open borders, the 1965 Immig Act, gun control for average Americans, and all intentionally to keep us divided while they all get richer, may need held to account too for their anti-USA positions.


27 posted on 03/16/2014 5:12:29 PM PDT by apoliticalone
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To: mac_truck

Nothing will change....Borders have shifted all the time in that part of the world.


28 posted on 03/16/2014 5:13:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: JimSEA

The major failure of that stupid, worthless Budapest Memorandum (Clinton signed it, ‘nuff said), was the failure to recognize that Russia would never give up claims on The Crimea.


29 posted on 03/16/2014 5:15:20 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: apoliticalone

We did it in Kosovo, now it’s Russia’s turn to show that two can play that game.


30 posted on 03/16/2014 5:16:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Dagnabitt
Narva, Estonia: about 87 % ethnic Russian. Just sayin.

Good point...I believe the PM of Estonia just announced his retirement also.

31 posted on 03/16/2014 5:17:56 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Dagnabitt

“Narva, Estonia: about 87 % ethnic Russian. Just saying.”

If you look at a listing of the countries that the Russians see as enemies, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland are right at the top. Putin remains popular if he “protects” ethnic Russians. We are pretty high on the hate list as well which explains the “turn to ash” rhetoric of the Russian press. Cold War II has already started but we don’t understand.


32 posted on 03/16/2014 5:35:05 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Cyber Liberty

Looks like the Gimmes exist in every nation.

Now why would anyone vote in Communism for free stuff. /s


33 posted on 03/16/2014 6:40:51 PM PDT by berdie
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To: JimSEA
I would think that the economy in fiscally-tight EU-member Estonia is better than in basket-case Ukraine. So there should be less (non-emotional) reason for local Russians to want to break off to Mother Russia.

Plus I think the Estonian government would fight - with bullets (even with the full knowledge that their NATO membership is of dubious worth with Barky Hussein in the White House) .

34 posted on 03/16/2014 8:17:18 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: JimSEA

No ethnic Russians in Poland.


35 posted on 03/16/2014 8:19:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mac_truck

Totalitarian states survive through expansionism. The Soviet Union, with its bankrupt economic model, had to retain Eastern Europe after World War II to survive. Any portable assets in these countries from gold and currency to raw materials to art and antiquities to industrial plants were sent east to Moscow. Whole factories were disassembled and shipped back to the USSR then reassembled. Stalin emulated the Czars as does Putin. When military conquest becomes risky many forms of subversion can be applied to any small country bordering Russia.


36 posted on 03/16/2014 8:39:22 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: dfwgator

No but Russians hate Pols anyhow.


37 posted on 03/16/2014 8:52:16 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA
No but Russians hate Pols anyhow.

And the Poles return the favor...Remember if confronted with a German and a Russian soldier, the Pole shoots the German first, business before pleasure.

38 posted on 03/16/2014 8:53:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mac_truck

If it helps destroy the European Union, great!


39 posted on 03/16/2014 8:58:35 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: mac_truck

They can expect a very controlled and one sided media and opposition politicians and business people arrested on bogus charges and others to die mysteriously


40 posted on 03/16/2014 10:20:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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