Posted on 03/08/2014 6:12:18 PM PST by lowbridge
Last weekend, I reported on Connecticut John Cinque's 2013 warning to lawmakers that he would not comply with their attempts to force the citizens of Connecticut to register their semi-automatic weapons and high capacity magazines. Since that time, the video, though a year old, has gone viral. However, in a recent video between Mr. Cinque and Connecticut gubernatorial candidate Joe Viconti, Cinque reveals that a Branford, Connecticut police officer told him, "I Cannot Wait to Get the Order to Kick Your Door In."
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Good people will leave Connecticut. The wanabe eurotrash will remain to roll around in the remaining excrement
He agrees that the law Connecticut signed is unconstitutional:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3131162/posts?page=109#109
But then he says they have to enforce it:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3131162/posts?page=221#221
Your contention that a promise to peacefully and uniformly enforce the law would be equally disruptive to social as a promise of personal violence is absurd on its face.
Your second contention that an otherwise terroristic threat becomes magically legal merely by invoking non-existent potential orders is even worse, because it removes ALL barriers to terroristic threats. Under your umbrella protection, any cop at any time could tell any law abiding citizen that they would shoot them dead under the conditions authorized by law, including mere fear. While technically correct taken alone, the very lack of unlawful activity or threat to the officer during their recitation of intended violence becomes a de facto part of the communication. And in this case, the fact is that said office has NOT yet received any such orders.
So yes, the officer “should have kept silent.” But the REASON he should have kept silent is because saying what he said, under the conditions he said it, comprises a terroristic threat, unduly inflames public fears, and increases the possibility of injury and death generally among the population and specifically among his fellow officers.
Funny you should say that.
My wife and I were driving north on I-95 through Bridgeport Connecticut a couple years back. It was the middle of the day, and traffic was moving bumper-to-bumper at about 75 mph.
All of a sudden, the two cars right in front of me swerved, and before I could do anything, I ran over a 4 x 4 in a cinderblock in the middle-of-the-road.
For split second, I wondered if the car had been damaged, and then the wheels began vibrating badly. I had blown out both tires on the left side of my wife’s 1985 Toyota Corolla.
I could barely control the car, but what made it worse was the fact that there was no breakdown lane, and I was heading around a curve and there was a high retaining wall where the breakdown lane should have been, so I had very little visibility on what was coming up behind me.
So, here I am struggling with the steering wheel that’s going wildly side side, and I look up and see cars coming up behind me around the corner in my rearview mirror, breaking hard, and trying to swerve out-of-the-way. Then I saw an 18 wheeler coming up. The whole time, I was barely looking ahead of me except to make sure I did run into the back of somebody, and I had my eyes glued to my review mirror. My wife kept saying “what’s wrong? What’s wrong?”
I eventually got to an exit, and pull down onto the grass right off the highway ramp about 100 feet after the exit. Interestingly, there happened to be a tire repair place within sight up the road.
How curious.
So my wife and I left the car and walked down to the tire place. They said they would send a tow truck up. While I was waiting, I remembered I wanted to get something out of the car. When I walked back up there (literally within 10 minutes of leaving the car there) there was a tow truck hooking up to the car with a good-sized Connecticut state trooper standing there supervising.
I ran up and said “What are you doing? I have a tow truck coming up here right now to get my car to repair it!”
The cop said “sorry. There’s nothing I can do. Once we hook up to the car, we have to take it…”
At that point, I heated up really quick, and I said “No Effing way that you are taking my car. I am going to lie down the road in front of the car, and you’re going to have to run me over to take it!”
I reached a boiling point nearly instantly, and I meant every word I said, and even started walking in that direction. The cop said “Sir, calm down.” He told the guy to unhook the car just as the tow truck from the tire company came up.
I think if I had got up there even one or two minutes later, I would’ve had no idea where my car was.
The whole thing reeked of a scam. If not a scam involving the tire company throwing debris on the road, a scam involving the state police and the tow truck company.
In retrospect, I always have to remember that when a state policeman tells you to calm down after you use profanity… Even if you are right, it is probably a good idea to do as he says. I figure I must’ve been pretty close to getting tasked and cuffed.
I’m not asserting that the poster was paid to post here, rather that he was posting here while being paid and at his government work site.
That said, this thread may interest you; http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3126612/posts
That's because he didn't swear an oath to uphold the Constitution of these United States when he took his job, or he is a fake.
Exactly.
Or he has a vested interest in it.
I got pulled over in a small town speed trap in Florida once while visiting my in-laws. I was told by the original officer to pull into a hotel parking lot directly across the street. I did as asked.
Then an obviously lesbian officer drove up and demanded my wife get out of the car. She was instructing my wife to bend over and reach under my car to pick up a beer can I had not seen while parking. My wife refused and the lesbian became irate and told my wife that she saw her throw it out of the window. My wife denied it and the lesbian told her that she had it all on dash-cam.
At that point I lost my effing mind and started yelling at the lesbian to “PLAY THE G*D **** TAPE!!!” She tried to speak but by this time I was interrupting her by yelling the same statement at her over and over. I never left my seat or unbuckled. She pulled her pepper spray and approached when luckily the orginal male officer that pulled me over stepped in and defused the situation.
It was real close and destroyed my trust in those who protect and serve.
Thanks for the reference to your post # 40. I went back and re-read it just a minute ago and your points contained in it are unarguably “correct” though you clearly have a much higher “opinion” of government bureaucracies than the vast majority of “freepers”. Nevertheless, your post 40 (how you would handle things) is instructive, albeit perhaps not conclusive, I think, in the minds of the total population of Freepers.
That said, so is Cinque’s. When, back in 1962, the Russian’s were making their way across the Atlantic to Cuba with more ICBM’s on their ships decks, President Kennedy was trying, with his Admirals and Generals, to develop a strategy to IMPRESS or warn,if you will, Khrushchev and his buddies to stand down but NOT kick off an all out nuclear war would not break out any minute. Anything passive they felt would just send the wrong signal that might not be heard in the right places by the right people.
The strategy that they came up with was US Destroyers would fire 5” cannon fire rounds across the bow of the Russian ships if they did not stop and there would be no question the ship captain would get on the horn to Khrushchev.
Similarly, it seems, Cinque is just sort of firing a shot across the bow of the local police agencies and state legislators/governor, instead of lower echelon bureaucracies, which a lot of us on FR agree with.
Namely, “uh......you guys (leftists politicians) better pay close attention here cuz a few million of us armed “good ole boys” in fly over country, and tens of thousands in Connecticut, have about had it and don’t intend to WAIT around and allow some scenario, similar to the one that the unfortunate and passive Soviets experienced and that was described so well in post 39.........., to develop”.
To coin a favorite line Obama likes to utter but not mean..........”you boys are crossing a red line” and we are past talking to your bureaucracies”.
Hopefully Cinque’s warning (shot across the bow) will give these legislators and cops pause and no more stupid and inflammatory statements will come forth from OFFICIALS like the offending cop in question.
As for Cinque, I admire him for standing up and speaking out to these would be gun grabbers, but he surely painted a target on his back for the liberals to shoot at (figuratively speaking).
I have cut and pasted (below the asterisks) words from of a verbatim few sentences of a speech Patrick Henry gave March 23, 1775. I think it is instructive to Cinque and yourself and all of us at FR that are concerned about this gravest of grave issues we are forced to resist here in 2014.
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St. John’s Church, Richmond, Virginia
March 23, 1775.
MR. PRESIDENT: No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if, entertaining as I do, opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely, and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The question before the House is one of awful moment to this country.
Bu-bye, idiot. No one was talking about firemen, moron.
I respectfully submit that this entire thread is being trolled by one single individual.
Got the zot, did he? Good riddance, a rather nasty statist, that one.
So why isn’t this cop outed and named? Is this real?
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"Well, sir, when they send a corrupt fat ass cop like yourself to kick in my door, I'll know my side is winning and the REAL cops are taking heavy casualties in their gun grabbing scheme."
Actually, I was thinking a better response would be:
"Just be sure you're on point bucko."
I see you joined Alaska Wolf and bought the farm.
B-Bye troll.
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Okay
Yes.
He was.
In post 109 he agreed that the law was unconstitutional.
Then in post 221 he says that as long as a judge signs the warrant it is legal.
So he was for confiscation, threatening private citizens, and conspiracy to deprive citizens of constitutionally guaranteed rights under color of authority...as long as a judge signs the warrant.
Enforcing an unconstitutional law is itself unlawful.
Conspiracy to deprive citizens of constitutionally guaranteed rights is unlawful regardless of what idiot judge signs the warrant.
Threatening private citizens is unlawful.
Make sure you kick the door nice and loud when you show up.
Want to be certain both parties recognize the other.
You forgot "Make sure you're on point."
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