Posted on 03/05/2014 7:52:46 PM PST by george76
Federal wildlife officials are setting aside nearly 1,200 square miles in the American Southwest as critical habitat for the jaguar... Pima, Santa Cruz and Cochise counties in Arizona and Hidalgo County in New Mexico
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The critical designation means anyone developing federal land in the area needs to consult the service to ensure it will not hurt the jaguars habitat
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That’s true but there are still a lot of uses allowed on those lands that could be curtailed by claiming harm to jaguar habitat.
That's what makes it great cartel and drug land as well. Easy to hide, and 'survive' and do what bandits have always done.
The BP already uses horses in that area, and that makes sense. Part of the problems they face is that the cartel have better technology and supply chains.
You could stop the cartel in that area, but ya would need to bring back Pershing, and uses modern tech.
They’re trying to make our county wolf country and there is no historic evidence of wolves in our area.
They’ve made some northern Mexican state wolf habitat and every wolf they have released has been killed. I’d laugh but each one they release costs the US taxpayer 500K.
Google Sasha Siemel, he hunted them in Brazil using a gun a bow and a SPEAR. Pretty big balls. One of the ones he killed was a cattle killer and had killed a vaquero. He said it weighed 440#. I don’t think they are bluffable as a cougar might be.
440#? Yikes. Mountain lions around here are half that size. I did some searching and learned a lot. Totally different type of cat.
There's a reason they were extirpated. These types of animals are great, as long as one doesn't have to live with them around, when they decide to not work as hard for their meals.
Agenda 21, amigo. Humans are seen to be the problem.
Get rid of the Lucas Electrics and the Jag will be just fine.
That was my initial reaction, but that is apparently not the case.
Be a jaguar and get 1,200 square miles free of charge.
Be a human being and get billed for it.
“All men are created equal - but jaguars are better than everybody.”
Must have missed that clause.
Wolves are included, too, right?
Negatory! I and others have seen one on the coast of Oregon within the last 10 years. It was a very large dark cat 1/3 to 1/2 again as large as any cougar I have ever seen. Including tail in length, it was as long as one lane of the two way road I was driving on. It was crossing the Siletz Hwy by the truck scale area between Siletz and Toledo. I repeat that I am not the only person to have seen the big cat and can give another witnesses name.
Looks like a reconquest map printed by La Raza.
Maybe what we should be doing instead is setting aside the entire southern border as a “habitat” and stock it with tigers. With all the illegals crossing there, the tigers’ hunting ground would be well stocked.
> Are the jaguars bigger than regular mountain lions such as the ones in the western part of the country?
Yup !!
Large cougars get up to about 220 pounds; The average jaguar is the size of a large cougar and the occasional large males can get to 350 pounds.
The Federal Jaguar Eradication Program was started in the early 1900s at the request of farmers and cattlemen. It continued until the early 1950s at which time the number of bounties paid dwindled to the zero and the program was ended. It is highly possible and probable that a few of the big cats remained and that may be what you saw.
With any luck, the mountain lions and lobos will eat them up, and the ranchers will kill them. Enough is enough, and this government is way over the top.
I realize that Jaguars are different but why is it a bad thing if they are put in a part of the country where big cats already live and thrive? Grizzles and Black bears live in the same habitat and there are big cats living there as well.
As others have noted, much larger than a mountain lion, larger than leopards, in fact the third largest cat in the World after tigers and African lions.
Go to YouTube, find the videos of the jags attacking caymens and anacondas.
A couple of those feature black jags. The phrase black panther is still used in the US but there are no black panthers. When there were still jaguars in the US there were some black jags.
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