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Investment & Finance Thread 2014 New Year(Mar. 3 - nexttime edition)
Daily investment & finance thread ^ | Mar. 3, 2014 | Freeper Investors

Posted on 03/03/2014 2:15:00 AM PST by expat_panama

Investment & Finance Thread 2014 New Year(Mar. 3 - nexttime edition)

 

This is the thread where folks swap ideas on savings and investment --here's a list of popular investing links that freepers have posted here

Open invitation continues always for input on ideas for the thread, this being a joint effort works well.  

Keywords: financial, WallStreet, stockmarket.

 

 

 

fwiw, these are the returns on $1,000 since 2010 for various investments:

Incidentally, the plan is to include here a ----so let me know if anyone wants on or off this ping.  Be advised that it gets posted only when I'm not feeling lazy and remember that we now know from studies that sloth is completely genetic and lazy people are the way they are because they were born that way. 

Bottom line is I can be as lazy as I want and society is required to grant me all the privileges that industrious people claim.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; fedbubble; financial; investing; putin; russia; stockmarket; ukraine; wallstreet
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To: abb

lol!

What I like to do on a day like today is check out the pre-opening bid/ask prices on my holdings to guesstimate the current values. That way I got time to think out strategies when I’m not in a hurry.


21 posted on 03/03/2014 4:37:48 AM PST by expat_panama (Arguing with those who have renounced reason is like giving medicine to the dead. --Thomas Paine)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Dow futures at -145 now.

Dow futures -150.

Dang, and here I spent all that time this weekend on such a terrific 'buy-list'.

22 posted on 03/03/2014 4:39:39 AM PST by expat_panama (Arguing with those who have renounced reason is like giving medicine to the dead. --Thomas Paine)
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To: who knows what evil?

Probably Zero Hedge along with Jan, Apr11, Mar16, etc, etc, etc. Pick a date, they pretty much got them all covered.


23 posted on 03/03/2014 4:39:41 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: abb
American refiners are set to add at least 400,000 barrels of oil-refining capacity a day to existing plants between now and 2018

100k bpd per year sounds at or below the average expansion for the last decade or so.

24 posted on 03/03/2014 4:53:41 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: expat_panama

That’s exactly my thinking too, expat. The long-term trend is so obviously steadily upward, one would be a fool not to be riding it up. Backup plans for short-term reversals are necessary, of course.

TC


25 posted on 03/03/2014 5:25:51 AM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

The immediate shock reaction to this geo-political crisis is panic. Be prepared for a flight capital tsunami into the US “safe harbor” markets. Bear-Market madness is collective. Consequential recoveries are cummulative.


26 posted on 03/03/2014 5:49:15 AM PST by Tugo (Bozo of the Day)
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To: expat_panama

You’re probably right, at least I hope so. But, we have to survive 980 more days of Obama, and I have my doubts. I really do.


27 posted on 03/03/2014 6:17:29 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: expat_panama

Good to see you. Been churning and burning since you’ve been gone. Now maybe I can make some money...


28 posted on 03/03/2014 7:29:16 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: expat_panama
Still sitting on the sidelines. We all have our "big fishes" that got away. I thought that correction wasn't enough and haven't learned how/when to short.

Here's what I come away with today. I've been looking at Vanguard on Scottrade but want to steer clear of S&P 500 index because of Soros. Emerging markets wouldn't be good now. Last night Bob Brinker practically yelled at a caller, Vanguard whole stock market. That made sense so I look it up. Well Scottrade doesn't have it any ore (I don't think) nor the Wellington fund. So forget that.

I watched Walgreens go from about 45 to where it was today, 68 something, down a little.

jc Penney's and Blackberry in play again. I don't want to risk JCP but BBRY I will keep my eye on it, made some on it then got burned.

Just about everything else looks overvalued. I don't want to spend all my time on stocks but will look into energy stocks. Also, I got more in divideds last year than I got in interest on more than 3X the money on my credit union account.

Dividends require you to be owner of record on a certain day. Then you can sell. Regardless, I see the overall advantage of dividends, hopefully with a good performer along with it.

I've been out for awhile and think I've kind of lost the feel of it.

29 posted on 03/03/2014 2:07:54 PM PST by Aliska
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30 posted on 03/03/2014 2:10:13 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Aliska
Check out Kinder Morgan or AMLP. Kinder Morgan is a pipeline so they have tax implications and AMLP may because of that be a better fit.
31 posted on 03/03/2014 4:44:23 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Chgogal
Thank you. I'll put them in energy watchlist tomorrow and look at some charts for them. Someone here who is no longer around recommended Holly Energy if it went down to 45. It did but I don't like to blindly follow advice. It's had its ups and downs but could have made me some money if I'd played it right.

I can't remember the stock code for Holly and don't want to log in to look it up.

One company I was in paid terrific dividends. It is a fertilizer company, RNF (not sure that's the right code) Renfro Nitrogen Fertilizer, probably is. When I was in, it was at 30 something. Then it started tanking. The dividend still paid but not 11%. Anyway, I got out of that at a loss. Told myself I'd buy back in if it got to 17. Probably did, I don't watch all the time. Today it was 18 something.

I'm always looking for promising IPO's, too. Made pretty good on 2, SCTY, XONE, and a reit I got out of fast at a small profit. Too many jumped on the first two and I don't play them any more for various reasons.

32 posted on 03/03/2014 5:18:02 PM PST by Aliska
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To: expat_panama

Please put me on the ping list!


33 posted on 03/03/2014 5:45:11 PM PST by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this...")
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To: abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; Aliska; Aquamarine; B.O. Plenty; BenLurkin; bert; BipolarBob; ...

--and a very good morning to all!  Upbeat stock futures this AM support what SAJ was saying on another thread "Let this Ukraina flap blow over", at least as far as stock futures are concerned.  Here are the headlines from MyConfirmationBias.com:

World shares, Russian assets bounce back after heavy Ukraine hit

Ukraine Fears Are Temporary Thing - Brian Wesbury/Bob Stein, First Trust


34 posted on 03/04/2014 2:27:32 AM PST by expat_panama (Arguing with those who have renounced reason is like giving medicine to the dead. --Thomas Paine)
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To: expat_panama

ping


35 posted on 03/04/2014 2:29:28 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: MichaelCorleone
churning and burning since you’ve been gone. Now maybe I can make some money...

It's the group (imho), for me the chatter from others doing similar work seems to make thinking easier.   There are a lot of investing chat/groups but this one also has a lot of other common interest advantages.

36 posted on 03/04/2014 4:00:50 AM PST by expat_panama (Arguing with those who have renounced reason is like giving medicine to the dead. --Thomas Paine)
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To: expat_panama

Looks like it will be roaring back this morning.


37 posted on 03/04/2014 5:02:57 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

yeah; futures still not quite as upbeat today as they were down yesterday but my personal approach atm is checking out possible new buy candidates...


38 posted on 03/04/2014 5:06:53 AM PST by expat_panama (Arguing with those who have renounced reason is like giving medicine to the dead. --Thomas Paine)
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To: expat_panama

Thanks for the 3rd link. Interesting data/timetable.


39 posted on 03/04/2014 5:37:05 AM PST by PGalt
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To: expat_panama
ES this morning:


40 posted on 03/04/2014 5:47:34 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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