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BBC TV Reporting That Russian Troops Are Digging Trenches At The Land Border
Twitter ^ | March 2, 2014

Posted on 03/02/2014 2:57:14 AM PST by Fennie

BBC TV reporting that Russian troops are digging trenches at the land border between Crimea and rest of Ukraine.

(Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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1 posted on 03/02/2014 2:57:14 AM PST by Fennie
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To: Fennie

The people of Crimea have spoken. IIRC, They actually have a different government than other parts of Ukraine. They wish to go back to Russia.


2 posted on 03/02/2014 3:05:03 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: F15Eagle

“I think Ukraine will be two, maybe three countries(?) after this is over.”

Russia needs them to be one country that they control because of the pipeline network traversing the entire country. Somebody on FR posted the pipeline map and that one graphic did indeed explain the entire affair.


4 posted on 03/02/2014 3:13:14 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather
IIRC, those pipelines feed all the EU countries.

Then again....how many Canadian pipelines feed our country??

5 posted on 03/02/2014 3:21:26 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Fennie

Possibly but I doubt Russia will stop with retaking just Crimea. Russia has important oil and gas pipelines in the rest of Ukraine. Also she sees that territory as important fir defense purposes. And much of her food is grown there. Plus Russia would never want to see Germany (eu) gain sway there in Russia’s underbelly. (Remember WW2. ) Right or wrong , Russia will almost certainly finish the job.


6 posted on 03/02/2014 3:24:52 AM PST by faithhopecharity (" uri)
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To: Sacajaweau

“IIRC, those pipelines feed all the EU countries.”

Those pipelines to the EU are the source of Russia’s wealth and power. Now, if we drilled here and built more refineries we’d be positioned to profit handsomely from this. Drilling here and exporting would change the face of world politics more than fighting in each NE country that wants to destroy us.


7 posted on 03/02/2014 3:25:29 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Sacajaweau
The people of Crimea have spoken. IIRC, They actually have a different government than other parts of Ukraine. They wish to go back to Russia.

There are a whole lot of Americans, mostly separated geographically from the socialists in our country who have also spoken. Do you think those in power want to permit secession today in the United States? I doubt that either side in the Ukraine wants that outcome either.

9 posted on 03/02/2014 3:44:58 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Sooth2222
I was going to post that same graphic. I'll bet Europe hopes Vlad doesn't shut down those pipelines.

Russia provides more than half of Ukraine’s natural-gas needs and since 2006 has twice curtailed supplies in disputes over politics, price and late payments. Those supply cuts rattled countries across Europe that depend on the Russian pipelines that run through Ukraine.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/shifting-energy-trends-blunt-russias-natural-gas-weapon/2014/02/28/7d090062-9ef7-11e3-a050-dc3322a94fa7_story.html

10 posted on 03/02/2014 3:50:03 AM PST by McGruff (Every night has it's dawn.)
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To: McGruff

http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_02_25/Russia-may-halt-food-imports-from-Ukraine-5165/


11 posted on 03/02/2014 4:01:44 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Fennie

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_02/Crimea-to-seek-larger-than-autonomous-status-at-coming-referendum-parliament-speaker-6096/


12 posted on 03/02/2014 4:03:38 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Fennie

The whole thing is Czechoslovakia 1938 all over again.


13 posted on 03/02/2014 4:11:31 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Sacajaweau
False. Russia has several other pipelines: one in the Baltics, another theroug Poland, a third throuh the Balkan countries and a forth to Turkey. Only 33% of Russian gaz pass through Ukraine, which depends on it for 80% of its energy. Anger Putin more, and he will shut down the gaz, leaving Ukraine in the dark and stand still.


14 posted on 03/02/2014 4:24:39 AM PST by Marguerite ( When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Fennie
Feel the love.
15 posted on 03/02/2014 4:25:32 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Too bad the Ukrainians do not have a Von Manstein.


16 posted on 03/02/2014 5:38:28 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

It is indeed their own leadership that has produced this chaos. They will gain nothing. And it was a coup. Twenty five years of independence has gotten them nowhere because of internal fighting.


17 posted on 03/02/2014 5:43:13 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: JPG

zer0:”Don’t you understand that you are making it difficult for me to be flexible? Why make this harder than it has to be?”

vlad:”I understand that you are an idiot. What’s hard about that?”


18 posted on 03/02/2014 5:47:41 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Fennie

What will be America’s response to this? A stern lecture. Oh, that will set those Russians straight. Putin is going all the way to the bank on this one. He knows there are no powerful world leaders who are going to stop him and a condemnation from the UN will just be flicked away like a harmless bug.


19 posted on 03/02/2014 6:19:55 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: dowcaet
Less than $3.8k to go!!


20 posted on 03/02/2014 6:21:04 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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