Common illicitly homemade submachine guns in Brazil

The Firearm Blog ^ | January 22, 2014

[HammerT]

Illicitly ‘homemade’ submachine guns feature very prominently in firearms seizures by police across South America, Brazil in particular. These weapons vary in their level of sophistication though a large number appear to be semi-professionally produced. In a recent study of over 14,488 firearms seized between 2011 and 2012 in Sao Paulo alone, 48% of submachine guns analyzed were reportedly homemade. Given the decent quality of many SMG clones, even that high statistic is probably significantly under reported.

The most frequently seized design for some time would appear to the be the model below. A workshop producing a variation among other machine pistols was the subject of a seizure by the authorities a few years back. There appear to be many variations in circulation, perhaps the design outsourced or copied by other illicit workshops. ‘Beretta – made in Italy’ is commonly seen stamped on these. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/650x235xtitlepicture-improguns.jpg.pagespeed.ic.e_R5Vb8Dno.jpg http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/390x270xbrazilianhomemadesmglarge-390x270.jpg.pagespeed.ic.6OdJHZFaD-.jpg http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/390x203xtfbhomemadesunmachinegun14-improguns-390x203.jpg.pagespeed.ic.B8t_PmWDpA.jpg http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/390x292xtfbhomemadesubmachinegunbrazil2-improguns-390x292.jpg.pagespeed.ic.OJcIVhsdjm.jpg http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/390x291xbrazilsmgsfgfgfhfhfh-390x291.jpg.pagespeed.ic.7pSdhdlHsP.jpg http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/390x237xtfbhomemadesubmachinegunbrazil12-improguns-390x237.jpg.pagespeed.ic.UclE0le1jV.jpg http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/390x295xBraziliansmgdccp-390x295.jpg.pagespeed.ic.tRO5dT2a5D.jpg http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/390x292xtfbhomemadesubmachinegunbrazil11-improguns-390x292.jpg.pagespeed.ic.dN1tvNqow9.jpg http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/tfbhomemadesubmachinegunbrazil4-improguns.jpg http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/390x289xtfbhomemadesubmachinegunbrazil5-improguns-390x289.jpg.pagespeed.ic.bE2SkBq5_c.jpg

[HammerT]

So much for the idea that registering and confiscating guns from innocent folks will stop criminals from getting them.

Even if you could magically get rid of every gun in the hands of the criminals, they can just make some on their own.

What are we going to do, get rid of metals?

[rjsimmon]

What are we going to do, get rid of metals?

I hear some can be made of plastic...

[WayneS]

In recent months increasing numbers of the model below have been seized, appearing to overtake the previous model in frequency. It is characterized by an unconventional appearance, owing to the use of a tubular receiver and a conical barrel nut. Unlike the majority of ‘T’ SMGs this design does not appear to make use of a telescoping bolt, resulting in a longer rear portion of it’s receiver. ‘Made in the USA’ is the most commonly stamped claim.

Holder counts these as guns which originated in the U.S.

[Monterrosa-24]

Zip guns have been produced in high school shop classes without the teacher noticing.

[HammerT]

Some images of the guns:

[Army Air Corps]

If only they had gun control! /s

[Kartographer]

Couldn’t they just create no gun zones?

[HammerT]

Well, then we get rid of plastic……

[rjsimmon]

Ceramic, too...

[HammerT]

Yes, and thus they have another justification for depriving everyone of their civil rights.

[HammerT]

Then we also get rid of ceramics – and a few crackpots at the same time…

[LucianOfSamasota]

Yeah, the left cannot achieve Huxley’s vision without controlling the human mind.

Those pesky serfs never know what’s good for them.

[FatherofFive]

Couldn’t they just create no gun zones?

And outlaw murder!!!!
And outlaw theft!!!!
And outlaw violence!!!!
And outlaw poverty!!!!

Idiots

[PapaBear3625]

And in places like Mexico, the criminals don't need to make guns, they can just pay some Mexican Army dude to look the other way while they drive off with some of the military's inventory.

Also, you think that people who are in the business of smuggling things, can't smuggle guns too?

[HammerT]

Yes, we just magically rid ourselves of guns…. Then there wouldn’t be any more violence since there was none before guns were invented don’t ya know.

Yes, we get rid of all our guns and there would be none left…. Except for possessed by the government..

But hey! That’s never been a problem, right?

[Capt. Tom]

I am not a gun person.
But looking at these guns, since they are continuous fire you would not need the accuracy of a one shot at a time gun.
So I would expect it would not be necessary to have a rifled barrell to rotate the bullet.
I would bet most of these guns are smoothbore, and easier to make.
Actually it would make for a bigger bullet spread.- Tom

[golux]

FOOLS! Guns don't kill people! It's education that is leading these folks to make their own things, and education is the product of independent thought and free will. Once we can outlaw those things the government will be in a better position to bring about utopia.

[WayneS]

Wood?

Very small rocks?

[Kartographer]

http://nowiknow.com/pakistans-village-of-illegal-guns/

[PapaBear3625]

Also, notice the use of the term "submachine guns".

It is EASIER to make a full-auto gun, than a semi-auto gun.