February 17, 2014: Supreme Court may rule on guns outside the home, 9:23 p.m. EST

USA TODAY | February 17, 2014 | Richard Wolf

[neverdem]

Here's the link.

[neverdem]

Alan Gura, of Heller and McDonald fame, has an appeal from folks in NJ as well, Drake v. Jerejian.

[2ndDivisionVet]

I don’t care what they say. The constitution and natural law tell me what’s what.

[doc1019]

Sounds like another constitutional right about to go down the tubes.

[ThunderSleeps]

None of those cases directly raises the next big legal issue in the national debate over guns: whether the right to keep a gun at home for self-defense extends to public places.

I'm in a public place, therefore my right to self defense is in a public place. I don't know by what idiocy anyone would think "...keep and bear arms..." in any way was restricted to just the domicile.

[Olog-hai]

Only if it’s not asserted.

[matthew fuller]

"the right to keep a gun at home for self-defense"

Where in the second amendment does it say "at home" or "self defense"?

[neverdem]

BANG!

[Olog-hai]

Says nothing of the sort. It instead says “shall not be infringed”, which means the SCOTUS becomes lawless if they rule against that law.

[Army Air Corps]

Be prepared for a ruling to screw us. Just saying.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

The Supreme Court defined what such rights were just before the Civil War.

Dred Scott vs Sanford.
What the SCOTUS thought about gun control in the pre Civil War era.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0060_0393_ZO.html

It would give to persons of the negro race, who were recognised as citizens in any one State of the Union, the right to enter every other State whenever they pleased, singly or in companies, without pass or passport, and without obstruction, to sojourn there as long as they pleased, to go where they pleased at every hour of the day or night without molestation, unless they committed some violation of law for which a white man would be punished;

and it would give them the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs,

and to KEEP AND CARRY ARMS wherever they went.

[Olog-hai]

Hah. “Settled law”, right?

[Paulie]

Sure does. Now we know why DHS has 1.6 billion hollow points at the ready.

[Myrddin]

Now we know why DHS has 1.6 billion hollow points at the ready.

Saves running to the store when they have to abandon them.

[Myrddin]

Now we know why DHS has 1.6 billion hollow points at the ready.

Saves running to the store when they have to abandon them.

[bkopto]

I don't know by what idiocy anyone would think "...keep and bear arms..." in any way was restricted to just the domicile.

Ask and ye shall receive:

[Theoria]

That was Scalia and crew with Heller. They helped put limitations on gun ‘rights’.

[bunkerhill7]

The Narrative of Thomas Mellen, 1848 - aged 92
Survivor of The Battle of Bennington Aug. 16,1777:

“I enlisted,” said he, “at Francestown NH in Colonel Stickney’s regiment and Captain Clark’s company, as soon as I learned that Stark would accept the command of the State troops; six or seven others from the same town joined the army at the same time. We marched forthwith to Number Four and stayed there a week. Meantime I received a horn of powder and run two or three hundred bullets. I HAD MY OWN GUN.”
[my caps]
“History of Newbury, Vermont: From the Discovery of the Coös Country to the Present Time”
edited by Frederic Palmer Well, 1902

[andyk]

The constitution and natural law tell me what’s what.

Word.

[Elsiejay]

Are we to be instructed that the right of self defense is conditioned on one’s location?

[RC one]

I wouldn’t be so sure. To assert that the right to self defense is legitimate inside but not outside of one’s house would deny the fundamental civil right to homeless people, renters, and travellers. I don’t think they can make that case and remain legitimate.