Posted on 02/13/2014 9:40:01 AM PST by Baynative
SALT LAKE CITY, February 12, 2014Can Utah shut down the new NSA data center by turning off the water? A new bill introduced by state Rep. Marc Roberts seeks to do just that.
The legislation drafted by a transpartisan coalition organized by the Tenth Amendment Center (TAC) and the Bill of Rights Defense Committee (BORDC) called OffNow Coalition. The Utah Fourth Amendment Protection Act would expressly prohibit state material support, participation, and assistance to any federal agency that collects electronic date or metadata without a search warrant that particularly desribes the person, place and thing to be searched or seized.
Without question, the mass surveillance and data collection by the Utah Data Center is a delicate and important matter, Roberts said. But for me, the language of the Fourth Amendment is clear. It simply protects us against unreasonable and unwarranted searches or seizures of our persons, private residencies and property, documents and information and personal and private belongings. This legislation preserves those rights to the people.
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No, but without running water you can't flush a toilet.
"Predictive modeling of meta-data."
We thought about this for a long time, predictive modeling of meta-data, and when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union.
I pray Utah has the courage.
may i be the first, “today” - or “in this thread” :-)
This is just theatre. I guarantee a state will not shut off water to a fed facility. Won’t happen.
This will not end well. The Feds will eventually force Utah to provide the water and electricity, and for free.
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And no one stops them.
This is just theatre. I guarantee a state will not shut off water to a fed facility. Wont happen.
Why?
Utah has been so screwed by dems in the past 20 years.
Mike Lee can drive the bulldozer! Lets just hope Hatch is inside when its demolished.
A commercial Data Center probably has 72 hours of diesel on site, being the NSA they probably store several weeks or more.
However, a data center of this size uses chilled water, and lots of it, to cool the servers and related equipment. They need a constant supply to keep operating. Killing the water will shut down the cooling and the DC.
The water is used to cool the servers. They can maybe last a week on backup cooling systems.
They need water, and lots of it, to keep the cooling operations running.
Or perhaps just build a dam downstream from where it is...
We've got a pretty good-sized data center at work, and it's a closed-loop system. I could see them needing lots of water if they're using an evaporative cooling system, but I don't think they'd risk having the systems taken down by a broken water main.
I go into a lot of data centers. Most large ones will use cold water sources with some kind of backup system. The backup is usually only rated for a short time and does not have the capacity to replace the chilled water.
Nice try, but this is blatantly unconstitutional.
Understood, but are those closed-loop recirculating systems, or open systems with a lot of evaporative loss?
I'm sympathetic to this proposal, but just a head's up that UTAH would violate the Constitution if it tried to do this. One of the most important cases in US history -- McCulloch v. Maryland concerned an effort by Maryland do to something very similar in order to kick out a federal agency they didn't want. Chief Justice John Marshall and the Supreme Court said that no, that states can't do that, way back in 1819. It's a nice try but the issue has been tried and settled.
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