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Pope: 'unjust' unemployment can mean sin, suicide
Assoc. Press ^ | 02/04/2014 | NICOLE WINFIELD

Posted on 02/04/2014 1:29:58 PM PST by Responsibility2nd

VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope Francis extolled the benefits of sharing wealth with the poor on Tuesday, warning that "unjust" social conditions like unemployment can lead to sin, financial ruin and even suicide.

The Jesuit pope has frequently railed about the excesses of capitalism and income disparity in a globalized world, and his message for Lent issued Tuesday echoed those same concerns

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"When power, luxury and money become idols, they take priority over the need for a fair distribution of wealth," he said in the short message. "Our consciences thus need to be converted to justice, equality, simplicity and sharing."

He said it's not enough to just make charitable offerings. ""Let us not forget that real poverty hurts: no self-denial is real without this dimension of penance. I distrust a charity that costs nothing and does not hurt," he wrote.

~snip~

Francis has riled some conservative Americans for his denunciation of capitalism and trickle-down economic theory, which is says is based on a survival of the fittest mentality "where the powerful feed upon the powerless" with no regard for ethics, the environment or even God.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: pope; unemployment
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To: Mears

In order for it to be worth “billions,” someone must pay billions.

Then, Mr. Gotrocks will have a bunch of artwork on his hands.

What should he do with it? Why, SELL IT, and give the money to the poor!

To whom can he sell it? Someone else who can pay billions.

And then, what should he do with it? Why, SELL IT, and give the money to the poor!

The only solution to the problem created by the Pieta is to SMASH IT. Then there won’t be anyone who can be scolded: “You should sell that and give the money to the poor.”


41 posted on 02/04/2014 2:12:51 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Responsibility2nd
In the United States, poverty doesn't have much if anything to do with money.


42 posted on 02/04/2014 2:13:28 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Mr Rogers

Yup. Obamacare itself is “unjust unemployment” as explained by the letter from the Texas opthalmologist the other day. Forced servitude.


43 posted on 02/04/2014 2:17:54 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Sooth2222

I don’t have a VCR. You people owe me money. BTT


44 posted on 02/04/2014 2:18:52 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Sooth2222
Percentage of Poor U.S. Households Which Have Various Amenities

Great chart, and 2005 to boot! 98% have TV, 78% have air conditioning, 64% have TV and cable, 55% have a cell phone, and 29% have TV and a video game system.

45 posted on 02/04/2014 2:21:56 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Sooth2222
It's those Amish translators again!

(...oh, wait...wrong thread).

Leni

46 posted on 02/04/2014 2:23:20 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Responsibility2nd

Dear Pope Francis:

Whatever happened to free will?


47 posted on 02/04/2014 2:23:36 PM PST by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: Patriotic1

Don’t forget, this was written with a leftist AP spin.

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Yep, and I excerpted it to create reactions like what we’re seeing.

But still... I did include exact quotes from the Pope himself. His own words condemn him.


48 posted on 02/04/2014 2:26:44 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Right. Again I say: FREE WILL, FREE WILL, FREE WILL.

And as my dear sainted mother would say: “God helps those who help themselves!”


49 posted on 02/04/2014 2:28:47 PM PST by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is true, but his words taken in context makes it less worse.


50 posted on 02/04/2014 2:31:43 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Responsibility2nd

And so I’m thinking how some small employer is supposed to come up with the $15/hour to pay when the company is just making it? It will mean they would have to lay off say five to pay the other ten the $15 that is considered “just employment”.


51 posted on 02/04/2014 2:33:24 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: Mr Rogers

Exactly. Our own poor people here in America are the richest poor people in the entire world!

Food stamps, rent subsidies, aid for dependent children, free cellphones, free tuition, free medical care and free birth control, free childcare; etc.

Some economists have tallied this all up to come to $40,000 a year income, tax-free, for a welfare family with minor children.


52 posted on 02/04/2014 2:33:42 PM PST by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Please, remember that the Vatican employes poor translators in order to reduce unemployment. The pope didn’t mean any of this.


53 posted on 02/04/2014 2:43:58 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Responsibility2nd
"where the powerful feed upon the powerless" with no regard for ethics, the environment or even God.

This is a far more accurate depiction of any socialist regime you can name, than it is of any real life free market capitalist system.

Someone should gently remind the Holy Father that the sin is not in the system, but in ourselves. No system devised by man will even begin to eliminate sin from the world.

54 posted on 02/04/2014 2:44:01 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Patriotic1

This is true, but his words taken in context makes it less worse.

 

Nope. MORE worse.

"How much pain is caused in families because one of their members - often a young person - is in thrall to alcohol, drugs, gambling and pornography!" he lamented.

Sometimes "unjust social conditions" like unemployment lead to this type of destitution by depriving people of the dignity of work and access to education and health care, he said.

Is he really equating some poor young person on drugs is a result of  "unjust social conditions" like unemployment? Perhaps if we raised the minimum wage or provided free healthcare we would resolve our problems with "alcohol, drugs, gambling and pornography"?

Bull Chesse.


55 posted on 02/04/2014 2:44:11 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I believe you. The Vatican must pay those poor translators minimum wage. Talk about your “unfair social justice”!


56 posted on 02/04/2014 2:45:54 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

These days anyone can be put put of their job by a robot....including the Pope


57 posted on 02/04/2014 2:47:11 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: .45 Long Colt

There’s nothing new, and nothing socialist about the notion of a “social mortgage.”

Who has ever denied that a starving man has the right to steal food?


58 posted on 02/04/2014 2:48:05 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Responsibility2nd
"where the powerful feed upon the powerless" with no regard for ethics, the environment or even God.

This is a far more accurate depiction of any socialist regime you can name, than it is of any real life free market capitalist system.

Someone should gently remind the Holy Father that the sin is not in the system, but in ourselves. No system devised by man will even begin to eliminate sin from the world.

59 posted on 02/04/2014 2:52:21 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Patriotic1
This is true, but his words taken in context makes it less worse.

Ah, the good ole "Obama vs. Romney" rationale.

60 posted on 02/04/2014 3:13:51 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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