Posted on 02/03/2014 4:33:29 PM PST by dynachrome
The impacts of EPAs ruling will affect many families. According to the U.S. Census Bureaus 2011 survey statistics, 2.4 million American housing units (12 percent of all homes) burned wood as their primary heating fuel, compared with 7 percent that depended upon fuel oil.
Local governments in some states have gone even further than EPA, not only banning the sale of noncompliant stoves, but even their use as fireplaces. As a result, owners face fines for infractions. Puget Sound, Washington is one such location. Montréal, Canada proposes to eliminate all fireplaces within its city limits.
Only weeks after EPA enacted its new stove rules, attorneys general of seven states sued the agency to crack down on wood-burning water heaters as well. The lawsuit was filed by Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont, all predominately Democrat states. Claiming that EPAs new regulations didnt go far enough to decrease particle pollution levels, the plaintiffs cited agency estimates that outdoor wood boilers will produce more than 20 percent of wood-burning emissions by 2017. A related suit was filed by the environmental group Earth Justice.
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All of them if the opportunity arises.
The best bet here would to be make a small tile- or oven stove. The idea is to build a small, very hot fire in it, to thoroughly incinerate fuel with minimal exhaust, which heats up a material with a high infrared emissivity. Then for a few hours, the room it is in is illuminated with IR.
The idea would be to have a stove that weighs about 200 pounds, is inexpensive, consumes far less fuel than a typical stove, and while it’s not for cooking, it keeps their home warm.
Why are you defending the government jerks, palmer?
You need to pick a side, Freedom or insufferable Regulation.
Are EPA officials flammable? They certainly seem oily enough. Could possibly solve our energy problems(among other things).
I’m with you on that. And if it came, I would never have believe that it would be worshiped, installed, aided and abetted by bastards who claimed to be Americans.
Bingo.
See what the Soviets did to the kulaks.
Farmers that owned their land were a threat to the communists. They were starved and shot out of existence. Methinks it won't go down the same way in 2014 America.
How about a wood-fired pizza oven?
Let me ask you a similar false dichotomy question: are you for taking all the political, free speech actions possible such as commenting against the new EPA regulations? Or are you simply going to rant and rave?
The answer of course is that commenting might do no good against a regime that could care less about support from wood burning people. So you might as well rant and rave. I wil choose to comment against the regulation anyway even though it won't do much good. But it thousands of people joined me, it might.
I had to read it more than once too....this makes no sense to me. One thing to note is that rural is usually conservative, so this has a political ring to it...not to mention the issues with EPA to start with.
Since a fireplace can be used as a stove, it will immediately be classified as falling under that definition and regulated in the same manner.
Wood fired pizza ovens seem to be exempt. Bureaucratic whim? who knows?
Except they didn’t do that because they are going after new wood stoves from manufacturers. They aren’t regulating existing stoves, nor fireplaces, nor any new fireplaces being installed.
What about the Burgerking grills???
Mechanicos had this link upthread. Looks intersting.
“build a small, very hot fire in it, to thoroughly incinerate fuel with minimal exhaust, “
http://www.richsoil.com/rocket-stove-mass-heater.jsp
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward. ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
When they come for the guns we might as well go down fighting, because they're eventually going to kill us anyway.
There are 100,000,000 gun owners in this country. The math is promising.
Just ignore the EPA. Call it “an executive order”
Doesn't help when you have jackasses like O'Reilly getting on air saying he doesn't think the administration is deliberately trying to hurt people.
"I don't think Stalin is deliberately trying to starve anyone".
your logs belong to us. Burn rubber then.
A rocket stove is going to be tricky to run. I looked into them a couple of years ago. They are similar to masonry stoves with cold exhaust. Basically you don’t lose all your heat through the chimney and have outdoor air leaking into your house. The problem is getting them started with no draft, leaking exhaust, and pushing exhaust backwards down the chimney. That last one is the killer, literally. They are not recommended for people who don’t rigorously maintain the stove and run it properly.
I guess forest fires are now illegal.
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