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One CIA Lawyer Could've Stopped Waterboarding Before It Started, Here's Why He Didn't
ABC News ^
| January 31, 2014
| By LEE FERRAN
Posted on 01/31/2014 4:38:10 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: TigersEye
"Only an idiot would consider waterboarding torture."I agree with you 100%.
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posted on
01/31/2014 6:54:11 PM PST
by
Iron Munro
("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." - Robert Louis Stevenson)
To: Iron Munro
I don't know if you remember the movie or not, but it was a real hoot. Don't know why, but this reminded me of it.
The plot centered around aliens having invaded planet earth, and the populace was being brainwashed by big billboard sized signs.
You had to have special glasses to see the signs and aliens (otherwise the aliens looked like normal humans).
Wish we had some of those glasses. I suggest the above is what Obama really looks like all the time.
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posted on
01/31/2014 7:06:01 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
To: Iron Munro
How in the wide wide world of sports did a ridiculous dork like that become president!?!
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posted on
01/31/2014 7:07:06 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
To: yldstrk
To: minnesota_bound
I follow the law
you can follow evil if you want
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posted on
01/31/2014 7:23:05 PM PST
by
yldstrk
(My heroes have always been cowboys)
To: doc1019
100%!!!
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posted on
01/31/2014 8:52:47 PM PST
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
To: a fool in paradise
damn straight!!! 100%
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posted on
01/31/2014 8:53:53 PM PST
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
To: a fool in paradise
>> “WE came, WE saw, HE DIED!!!”
In that exact order?
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posted on
01/31/2014 8:54:55 PM PST
by
Gene Eric
(Don't be a statist!)
To: Jim Noble; Impy
no... it is NOT TORTURE!!! it is unpleasant and uncomfortable, but it is not torture.
pilots/aircrew/SPEC-OPS undergo it in SERE training.
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posted on
01/31/2014 8:57:46 PM PST
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
thank you... a guy i used to work with was (a retired CWO3 Corpsman) was a medical monitor for awhile, he laughed at the charge of torture.
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posted on
01/31/2014 9:04:37 PM PST
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
100%!!! and the claim that KSM was boarded 183 times is the only true in that, that was the number of times water was POURED on him!!! NOT how many times he was strapped to the board.
the L$M can kiss my arse
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posted on
01/31/2014 9:11:39 PM PST
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
To: Chode; NFHale; sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; Count of Monte Fisto; fieldmarshaldj; ...
Well why don’t you have a buddy do it to you or someone you love like your mom or your kid a few times and if you still wouldn’t call it torture then I’ll freely concede the point.
I reiterate that I support it 100% but pretending it’s not torture is silly semantics. It is and so is sleep deprivation and forced sitting in uncombable positions and other similar non-permanently harmful techniques. Torturing these pigs for live-saving information is 100% justified an in my opinion, legal. I would do worse than waterboard them, I’d go as far as penis removal. “We can still reattach it if you talk NOW”.
Pinging some people to see what they think.
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posted on
01/31/2014 9:14:32 PM PST
by
Impy
(RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
To: DoughtyOne
They Live, and we’re the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.
My old Tagline...
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posted on
01/31/2014 9:16:38 PM PST
by
Kickass Conservative
(Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
To: Kickass Conservative
Hey, I like it. Good one...
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posted on
01/31/2014 9:20:51 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
To: Impy
My husband had it done to him.
He says, not torture.
And sorry but neither are the other things you mention.
To say they are is like saying being leered at is being raped. Or having loaf is being starved.
We do no service when we make definitions overly broad.
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posted on
01/31/2014 9:21:42 PM PST
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
To: DoughtyOne
The Movie was “They Live”. Directed by John Carpenter and starring Roddy Piper.
They filmed some scenes in the Parking Structure of the L.A. Bank of America Data Center where I used to work.
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posted on
01/31/2014 9:21:49 PM PST
by
Kickass Conservative
(Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
To: DoughtyOne
Unfortunately it’s true, that’s the problem.
It’s kind of like living in Zombieland, but we can’t actually kill the Zombies that are screwing everything up.
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posted on
01/31/2014 9:24:15 PM PST
by
Kickass Conservative
(Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
To: TigersEye
A day or two before the SOTU address, I had this dream that seemed to last about 8-10 seconds, during which Obama busted out the most stupid juvenile impersonations during his address.
It was surreal. You talk about a 8-10 second moment to absolutely destroy your public persona, that was it. He looked far worse than this picture.
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posted on
01/31/2014 9:24:53 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
To: Kickass Conservative
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posted on
01/31/2014 9:25:28 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
To: Impy; Chode; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; Count of Monte Fisto; fieldmarshaldj
RE :”
Well why dont you have a buddy do it to you or someone you love like your mom or your kid a few times and if you still wouldnt call it torture then Ill freely concede the point.
.........
Pinging some people to see what they think.” After all this time debating this issue is similar to debated the firing of General McArther, an topic earlier today. Its history book stuff.
But I recall that by 2007 and 2008 Bush and Cheney's policies were polling toxic, especially Iraq.
But no matter how many times Dems would call it ‘Immoral torture’, the water-boarding of terrorists to get time critic info remained popular, in fact I recall a poll in Bush second term saying that the majority supported using torture to stop a terrorist attack.
Wasn't it a short term crisis response that ended early on?
Is the Obama drone policy more compassionate?
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posted on
01/31/2014 9:25:41 PM PST
by
sickoflibs
(Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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