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Krauthammer on Healthcare.gov: 'All hell's going to break loose'
FoxNews ^ | 1/22/2014

Posted on 01/23/2014 11:46:36 AM PST by RoosterRedux

Charles Krauthammer predicted Wednesday on "Special Report with Bret Baier" that "all hell's going to break loose" if the administration can't fix the problems with the Healthcare.gov website by mid-March.

"Right now the insurers are guessing at the subsidy, so all of this is on the honor system and it can be wildly off," Krauthammer, a syndicated columnist and Fox News contributor said. "If they undershoot, the insurers are going to go bust. If they overshoot, the government is going to be stuck with a huge bill."

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To: Candor7; Fred Nerks
Obama has achieved the defacto nationalization and politicization of our nations health care system.

And now Obama and his band of incompetents have to actually manage something.

This is akin to electing the Three Stooges as Mayor of NYC.

A man who cannot direct his staff to build a website cannot direct the healthcare of a nation.

He will be lynched before this is over.

41 posted on 01/23/2014 4:04:41 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

“This is akin to electing the Three Stooges as Mayor of NYC.”

One of the three is mayor now.


42 posted on 01/23/2014 4:12:56 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: RoosterRedux
In a few years it will be all single payer.

It will be like getting your healthcare from the DMV with all the employees being members of the SEIU and it will 3 times as slow, 4 times as indifferent, and 5 times as expensive. Oh, and as an added benefit, it will be politicized, too.

What is a good country to flee to before they revoke my passport and start my prosecution for being a capitalist saboteur, hooligan, and greedy wrecker?

43 posted on 01/23/2014 4:53:34 PM PST by Gritty (Nobody wants to hear about American exceptionalism when the issue is American ineffectualism-MSteyn)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
In other words, a path to single payer by the end of 2014 DOES exist.

No! It doesn't.

You are projecting your fears onto other people's statements that declare nothing of the sort.

44 posted on 01/23/2014 4:59:55 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: RoosterRedux

When does the penalty kick in? When people start getting hammered on their tax returns for not having insurance, THAT’S when all hell breaks loose. ESPECIALLY THE MILLENNIAL’S!


45 posted on 01/23/2014 5:38:08 PM PST by Tailback
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To: RoosterRedux

Sometimes I thing Charles read FR too much.


46 posted on 01/23/2014 5:49:30 PM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: Biggirl

If there is not open revolt by June I’ll be surprised...

The meeting of Occupy and Tea Party vs. DC.


47 posted on 01/23/2014 5:51:01 PM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Charles Krauthammer’s problem is the focus on the damn website. That’s the LEAST of the problems.

Fixing the website would be about as effective as having a nice functioning cash register is a restaurant selling sh*t sandwiches and forcing people at gunpoint to buy them.


Outstanding analogy that is worth repeating. FRegards!


48 posted on 01/23/2014 5:54:15 PM PST by volunbeer
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To: A CA Guy
Impeachment at lightening speed if he does that.

By whom?

49 posted on 01/23/2014 6:08:54 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: All; RoosterRedux; Alamo-Girl

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Perhaps, this is WHY?:

Bad news for us aging folks. *Your hospital Medicare admittance has
just changed under ObamasCare*. You must be admitted by your primary
Physician in order for Medicare to pay for it! If you are admitted by
an emergency room doctor it is treated as outpatient care where
hospital costs are not covered. This is only the tip of the iceberg
for Obama Care. Just wait to see what happen in this year and 2014!

*YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS... At age 76 when you most need it
most, you are not eligible for cancer treatment * see page 272. What
Nancy Pelosi didn’t want us to know until after the healthcare bill
was passed. Remember she said, “We have *to pass the Bill so that we
can see what’s in it.”

Well, here it is. ObamaCare Highlighted by Page Number THE CARE BILL
HB 3200 JUDGE KITHIL IS THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS
OF THE CARE BILL. Judge Kithil of Marble Falls , TX - highlighted the
most egregious pages of HB3200. Please read this....... especially the
reference to pages 58 & 59.

JUDGE KITHIL wrote:

** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all
non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an
individual’s bank account and will have the authority to make
electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the
government) for all union members, union retirees and for community
organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for
Reform Now - ACORN).

** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be
treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with
that?)

** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of
specialty, and the government will set all doctors’ fees. This is what
they do in Sweden too. I know because Alf’s daughter Ann is an OBGYN,
and her husband, Thorsten, is a surgeon.........

** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according
to the patient’s age.

** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on
hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an
exception.

** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning
consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an
“end-of-life planning” seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)

** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can
write an end-of-life order.

HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify: “Finally, it is
specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of
Congress. No wonder they did not see the need to read it....doesn’t
apply to them!!! THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO STAND UP TO WASHINGTON ..
I don’t know if we can do anything but but awareness helps.

Winds Of Change!


50 posted on 01/23/2014 9:36:40 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: RoosterRedux; Fred Nerks

A man who cannot direct his staff to build a website cannot direct the healthcare of a nation.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Obama ordered them to botch the web site. He has become the master of crisis, both self created and those that happen to just come along.

Thats how Obama accomplished nationalizing the Health care system. Meanwhile he is laughing at all of America who treats the Obama Care system as if it was an effort in “good faith,” when it so clearly was not.

The crisis was created to nationalize health care.As to lynching Obama? I doubt it. He will blame the insurance companies for every citizen death that occurs because of a lapsed “sub standard” policy. Obama is a grifter and a fascist. And people do NOT want o admit it, not even the GOP. This result was very thoroughly planned out.


51 posted on 01/24/2014 1:42:07 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Jeepers. Thanks for the ping!


52 posted on 01/24/2014 5:34:53 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: All
Major insurer Aetna observed: “We see only 11 percent of the population once firmly uninsured that are now insured. So [O/Care] didn’t really eat into the uninsured population” (the raison d'etre for its passage). Aetna is considering dropping out of the O/Care system---leaving a huge gap in the plan.

FOR THIS BOOBAMBA DESTROYED THE ENTIRE US HEALTHCARE SYSTEM---Months after the wobbly roll-out and screwed-up web site, Obamacare cunningly shifted people who were already insured onto its public exchanges to get taxpayer subsidies.....but failed to disclose these facts in order to hide its incompetence.

==================================================

SIGNING "THE BIG EFFIN' DEAL."

"Those Democrats leering over my shoulder owe me bigtime. This
healthcare bill insures we have a permanent Democratic majority."

" All except those Tea Party types, swallowed hook, line and sinker my promises that they could:
(1) keep their existing health plans,
(2) keep their own doctors that they like,
(3) keep their 25-year-olds on the family health plan,
(4) never be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition,
(5) sign up instantly on my tech-savvy government Web site,
(6) buy insurance only after becoming seriously ill."
(7) save $2,500 in annual premiums in the bargain....
(8) All without any new taxes."

"Them sonovagun Tea Partiers will rue the day they criticized my wonderful bill."

53 posted on 01/24/2014 7:26:36 AM PST by Liz
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
There is a lot of "stuff" there to make a lot of people unhappy, but the sad truth is that much of it will be unhappily accepted, or at least not fought vigorously. Even where it is, this thing is crafted so that the number of people who do benefit, or think they benefit, as with the subsidies, offsets the opponents who are actually willing to raise hell. Except... and you point it out:

** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual’s bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

That little item is what could PO most everybody, especially when, not if, the hackers make their move(s). That in turn is why I think the website is such a crucial part of the coming stink. The website is essential to implementation of ObamaCare; not so much for signing people up, it is the working (/sarc) hub of the whole thing. Think of it as the weapon in the hand, er, hands... ...and it will be used on you.

54 posted on 01/24/2014 12:03:09 PM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Windflier

Here, I agree with you.

Also, when this thing fails, who’s going to trust the gov’t to fix it with even more government? I can see that working if there was a slow fail, as others have said: Say, over a 5-10 year period. A major collapse by 2014 would pan out much differently, IMO.


55 posted on 01/24/2014 12:15:51 PM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Idk. Couldn’t the collapse open the opportunity for free market action to improve healthcare. You don’t really need insurance, just affordable access.

Handheld devices, including smartphones, will replace a lot of medical testing. Technology is outpacing bureaucracy.


56 posted on 01/24/2014 12:50:38 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Paul R.
when this thing fails, who’s going to trust the gov’t to fix it with even more government?

Oh my....logic and reason, leading to a rational deduction.

Mustn't have that, whilst the choir is chanting its daily, "we're doomed" mantra.

(spot-on, Paul)

57 posted on 01/24/2014 2:10:59 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

-— The Statist will NEVER allow their plans to fail, no matter how much more it will cost. Money pit? No problem , we own the printing press. -—

Absolutely. Socialized medicine won’t “collapse under its own weight.” Rove knows it, too.
Obama is Obamacare, and he won’t let it collapse


58 posted on 01/24/2014 2:16:27 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: RoosterRedux

Charles K helped Obama get elected, now he is on our side???

What a laugh, where was he when we needed him?

Bashed Sarah Palin from the moment she was chosen as VP, Every liberal network etc was saying...Charles K is against her

He fell all over himself praising Obama`s speeches, but now he is on our side?????


59 posted on 01/24/2014 3:26:17 PM PST by Friendofgeorge ( Palin 2016 or bust)
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To: Windflier

Well... I do admit that outside of FR, at least 30% of the population is beyond reason and logic, and are probably in favor of a single payer / 100% gov’t health care system, anyway. But on FR, SURELY we can do better in terms of reason and logic. And surely we can cheerfully, vigorously, convincingly, and humorously at times make the argument “You want more of THIS?!” to most people.

Now I will grant you that in a more general sense, we may be doomed. I’ve even been known to post so, when some piece of very negative evidence to the survival of a free USA confronts us. I just don’t think that ObamaCare crashing would be that sort of evidence, and its crash should give us freedom lovers a ray of hope.


60 posted on 01/24/2014 7:53:19 PM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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