Posted on 01/10/2014 1:52:43 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty
then just used zoom on the outside pic.
You can see a patch of clothes on the passenger by the door that is similar in design to the outfit she was wearing.
I can't really see anything else, except some hair. I think the woman looking into the camera looks like Fuddy, but I guess it is someone else, because she doesn't have on the same clothes that Fuddy was supposedly wearing. Even if Fuddy took off her overshirt, the shirt under it (dark pinkish purple) doesn't look like what the women in the foreground is wearing.
Does anyone have a list of the passengers? Were there three women or more?
I'm not sure I'd use Brietbart as an example of how a post mortum should be performed. Although the results in this case should be the same.
Maybe that’s a guy not a gal? Water swept hair making him look like a female?
Man everybody was quiet! But how did Fuddy die in that?
Matt1234, many thanks for the info !
Hoosiermama, butterdezillion ,Fantasywriter, LucyT
Hoosiermama
Re: your take on why the autopsy delay/not determined
Maybe the deputy was ummmm, ambitious?
My spidey sense meter is in the red zone :0
Nobody is forcing you to read this thread.
One would think that there would be only a small probability that among only eight passengers aboard that flight, there would be two different white females who are obese and have auburn hair.
Agree with you that Fuddy was wearing the same outfit in the photo taken on the island before takeoff as she was when seated in the passenger cabin in the second row, left seat.
Also, would you agree that the man floating in the foreground after the crash, second person from the right in the photo in # 45, is Keith Yamamoto (who, BTW, said he was right next to Fuddy after the the crash)?
All we officially know is that the autopsy was inconclusive & that the delay in releasing it is tied to ongoing interviews w the survivors who were in the water w Fuddy. That is the extent of the official announcement & explanations so far. Ppl w their own agenda have decided that ‘cause of death undetermined’ means, ‘determined but not announced’ or that, ‘it takes time to interview the crash survivors’ means, ‘we’re waiting on the toxicology report’.
You can tell who is spinning furiously by the degree to which they rewrite the official pronouncements. Though of course if anybody has an actual link saying the autopsy pinned down the cause of death but the announcement is being delayed, or that it will be released as soon as the toxicology report is finished, it changes things. So far, no such link has surfaced.
IIRC from one of the many articles I've read on this, one of the passengers was the pilot's son. Perhaps they don't release his name because he wasn't a paid passenger on the manifest. The second passenger without a name may be a friend of the pilot's son. Just a guess, but it might fit the scenario.
Adding what appears to be passenger number seven from the article provided in the link.
A pilot and 8 passengers; one of which was a swimmer-
PilotClyde Kawasaki, age 60
Passenger # 1 Loretta Fuddy, age 65, Hawaii State Health Director.
Passenger # 2 Keith Yamamoto, Fuddys Deputy Director.
Passenger # 3 Rosa Key, wife of Jacob Key, from Oahu.
Passenger # 4 Jacob Key, husband of Rosa Key, from Oahu.
Passenger # 5 C. Phillip Hollstein Jr., age 70, swimmer, from Kailua.
Passenger # 6 Ferdinand Puentes, onboard impromptu videographer.
Passenger # 7 Rev. Patrick Kililea. Comments as to witnessing Fuddys release from Yamamoto.
Passenger # 8
The Rev. was installed on the island with the leper colony. He would have every reason to be onboard the plane.
Seems his name is spelled Killilea. I believe hes Irish. The name looked Hawaiian. Ha! I tried something very simple- placed his name with title in a search engine. Ill have to do lots more of that some other time.
http://themolokainews.com/2012/05/18/kalaupapa-to-receive-a-new-pastor-in-july/
See post #170 & #171.
From the Daily Mail, we have Rev Kililea recounting what Yamamoto said to the priest. I thought Kililea was on shore and came to the area because he was a priest. If he was on the plane as the World Tribune indicates, he would have seen Yamamoto helping directly and wouldn't be recounting what Yamamoto said.
In the water, Fuddy held hands with her deputy director Keith Yamamoto as he tried to help her relax, said the Rev. Patrick Killilea, who consoled Yamamoto after the ordeal.
‘He recounted how he said he helped Loretta into her life jacket and he held her hand for some time,’ the priest said. ‘They were all floating together and she let go and there was no response from her.’
I cropped, enlarged and posted the image (twice) of the two people by the door, looks to me like Fuddy’s on the left and the person holding her hand has to be her assistant. The woman closer to the camera with wet hair seems to be one of the unnamed passengers.
I feel it’s my duty to point out stupidity.
Feel free to post one actual bit of evidence that Fuddy was murdered...or not.
I think Fuddy does look like the woman in the foreground. That's why I originally thought it was Fuddy, but now think she is at the airplane door. (The outfit is the only reason, I changed my mind). It could be a friend of hers that accompanies her on the trip.
Here's a picture of Keith Yamamoto:
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/keith-yamamoto-new-hawaii-deputy-health-director/123
I thought the one who looks like he is getting life preservers ready was the pilot. Part of his face is obscure though.
You can tell which on she is by her hair, which is still dry. She's on the left by the door.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/12/loretta-fuddy_n_4433761.html
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