Supreme Court Puts Gay Marriage On Hold In Utah

foxnews.com ^ | January 6, 2014 | Fox News

[Colonel_Flagg]

The Supreme Court has put gay marriage on hold in Utah. The high court on Monday granted the state a stay in their same-sex marriage challenge. The decision comes after a federal judge last month ruled in favor of gay marriage.

[Susquehanna Patriot]

“...I could really care less if a couple guys want to be together, although I have no understanding of why that would be.”

There are several reasons, depending on how far into leftist ideology one wants to venture, but one of the most common drivers is unspoken,,,, just follow the money . . . getting company or government “benefits”. Using the law to impose societal acceptance is another.

[Lurking Libertarian]

No, Sotomayor didn't grant the stay on her own. She could have denied the stay on her own, but she chose to refer the stay request to the whole court. If she had denied the stay request, Utah would have had the right to submit it to a second justice of their choice per standard SCOTUS procedure. Utah would have chosen Scalia or Thomas. Either could, and likely would, have granted the stay or referred it to the whole court as Sotomayor did. Sotomayor just circumvented that second stay request because she knew it was inevitable and simply referred it to the whole court herself rather than make Utah go through the legal motions. IMHO, this is not indicative of her position in any way and is not a surprise. LL may or may not have more to offer by way of legal procedure, etc.

What you wrote is correct. Every request for a stay goes first to the Justice assigned to that Circuit; if that Justice denies a stay, a party can, in theory, keep asking one Justice after another until they've asked all 9.

In practice, every time a request is made to a second Justice-- and almost every first request in a high-profile or controversial case-- the Justice who gets the request will ask the full court to decide it (as Sotomayor did here). That is simply to save time, because in those situations it's clear that multiple requests are going to be made.

What I do think is significant is that there was no recorded dissent from the grant of a stay in this case.

[Lurking Libertarian]

No, Sotomayor didn't grant the stay on her own. She could have denied the stay on her own, but she chose to refer the stay request to the whole court. If she had denied the stay request, Utah would have had the right to submit it to a second justice of their choice per standard SCOTUS procedure. Utah would have chosen Scalia or Thomas. Either could, and likely would, have granted the stay or referred it to the whole court as Sotomayor did. Sotomayor just circumvented that second stay request because she knew it was inevitable and simply referred it to the whole court herself rather than make Utah go through the legal motions. IMHO, this is not indicative of her position in any way and is not a surprise. LL may or may not have more to offer by way of legal procedure, etc.

What you wrote is correct. Every request for a stay goes first to the Justice assigned to that Circuit; if that Justice denies a stay, a party can, in theory, keep asking one Justice after another until they've asked all 9.

In practice, every time a request is made to a second Justice-- and almost every first request in a high-profile or controversial case-- the Justice who gets the request will ask the full court to decide it (as Sotomayor did here). That is simply to save time, because in those situations it's clear that multiple requests are going to be made.

What I do think is significant is that there was no recorded dissent from the grant of a stay in this case.

[gopno1]

“...I could really care less if a couple guys want to be together, although I have no understanding of why that would be.” There are several reasons, depending on how far into leftist ideology one wants to venture, but one of the most common drivers is unspoken,,,, just follow the money . . . getting company or government “benefits”. Using the law to impose societal acceptance is another.

I was even thinking on a more base level. How could a guy be sexually attracted to another guy? It's just strange to me, but I guess it happens. You are correct though. You can almost always follow the money, and yes now we have moved from not only "societal acceptance" but to almost a type of "forced celebration" of this stuff. It's not good enough now to simply "accept" we must also "celebrate and praise" the behavior lest we be labeled all types of terrible names by the tolerant left.

[DBeers]

Sodomayer for instance, if she was to ask Jesus into her life, that would change things

I have had the exact same thought recently...

[Psycho_Bunny]

Don’t forget Kelo v. New London...

[DBeers]

Leaving the definition of marriage up to the states isn’t acceptable.

Agreed. Regardless, it is happening YET any debate on the facts and merits regarding the issue has yet to happen in any court of law I am aware of.

The propaganda of the homosexual agenda has been so successful that 'progress' seems a forgone inevitability. The legal house of cards is premised upon propaganda accepted as gospel fact & slight of hand that replaces procreation with the emotion of love as the declared rational underlying society's institution of marriage. The courts accept as fact that there is a 'gay species' and with no rational basis that society must be imposed upon to confer upon 'married' homosexual sex partners the same social blessings it has freely conferred upon married heterosexual sex partners.

[Elsie]

That would be unique!

[Elsie]

Last I checked Utah wasn’t allowed to become a state unless they outlawed polygamy.

You're right.

But there is a BIG downside to that!!

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"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

[Elsie]

A resurgence in traditional and Christian values is not out of the question in the years to come, but it becomes more of an uphill battle every day.

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2 Chronicles 7:14

If my people, who are called by my name,
shall humble themselves,
and pray, and seek my face,
and turn from their wicked ways; ,

then will I hear from heaven,
and will forgive their sin,
and will heal their land.

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Since we are trying DESPARATELY to cure a Spiritual sickness with Political medicine; I'm afraid things will only get worse.

Until someone comes along with a plan to get ALL warring sides together.

And; it'll probably work; too.

For about 3 1/2 years...

[Elsie]

We get lots of visitors here at our small museum and all we can do is be courteous.

Sounds like a good plan.

[Elsie]

A constitutional amendment defining marriage would have helped alleviate a lot of this.

Why?

Marriage is what it ALWAYS has been 'defined'.

All this 'redefining' stuff is for the birds!

[Elsie]

unafraid

[Elsie]

The propaganda of the homosexual agenda has been so successful that 'progress' seems a forgone inevitability.

Everyone can remember..

Genesis 13:13
and
1 Corinthians 6:9-11

[Elsie]

The propaganda of the homosexual agenda has been so successful ...

GOD is NOT pleased!

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Genesis 13:13

Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

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2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

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But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

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If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 

 

 

 

[Pikachu_Dad]

It doesn’t need ‘reasoning’.

The ruling should be held until the courts rule on it.

[rcrngroup]

I think Kennedy got something up his arse and decided he liked it.

Including John Roberts. He not only looks like an effiminate fag, he exhibits all the effiminate & physical characteristics of one. I suspect that GW Bush fully knew that he was appointing a homosexual as chief justus of the U.S.

[BuckeyeTexan]

What I do think is significant is that there was no recorded dissent from the grant of a stay in this case.

Do tell? Is it common to see such dissents or is it that you expected ideological lines to be drawn this early with respect to a stay request for same-sex marriage?

[Morpheus2009]

That’s totally bizarre, that’s totally against the logic I heard where men and women could coexist, and yet they call diversity rape. Now that’s just upside down thinking, if you ask me.

[Elsie]

2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine.