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"Duck Dynasty" star Phil Robertson urged marrying 'em very young in 2009 video [my title]
Daily Mail (London) ^ | 12/30/13 | James Nye

Posted on 12/31/2013 5:07:43 AM PST by foreverfree

My parents got hitched right after they both turned 23, after my dad graduated from college and started his teaching career (my mom was already a bank teller). I (their lone child) was born 11 months later.

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To: wyowolf

Your right... things have greatly changed in the past 50 years and most young women are immature, and homemaking is now a lost art.


21 posted on 12/31/2013 5:42:46 AM PST by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: foreverfree

I would go so far as to suggest that when evaluating the idea in modern days are marrying at that age against the culture and maturity levels say 50-75 years ago. There would be a time when a “boy or girl” of that age would be an embarrassment to still be living at home.

Now we have “kids” still living at home in the parents basement until their 40 yr. old adults!

What changed? Why did it change?

What caused such a shift in cultural moors that we now have 40 yr. old basement kids?

It is somewhat amusing to read how we do not expect a 16 year old girl or young man to be able to “play house.”


22 posted on 12/31/2013 5:43:31 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: foreverfree
Marriages in traditional cultures do work much better when both partners marry young, females from 14 or so (after puberty, but not much) and males from 16, if the new couple is becoming part of the young man's father's household. The young man has little or no opportunity or resources to begin to support a nuclear family on his own but will continue in the work he has been doing since he was small, be it farming or his father's trade.

Among the fishermen and shrimpers on the Gulf Coast back in the 50s and into the 60s girls would marry when very young but the grooms would be older and making a living already. A mother's ideal for her daughter was to marry her 13 or 14 YO to a widowed boat owner who also owned his own house. After a few years he would die and leave her with house and boat and maybe a child or two, some money in the bank, and she could remarry to whom she chose. In that culture everyone benefited thereby. I have known quite a few such. The bayou community I was familiar with way back when has been invaded by affluent folks in their McMansions who like to live on the "picturesque" bayous. The traditional community is now more like a rural slum, especially since the State and Federal governments have restricted shrimping and fishing to the point that only the big factory boats can make any profit from it and those are of companies that can afford the fees and corruption necessary to work. There are still marginal shrimpers, quite a few, actually, but a mother would not wish her daughter to marry one of them. The only ones that make a half decent living are smugglers and that trade is being interdicted way too often.

23 posted on 12/31/2013 5:44:35 AM PST by ThanhPhero (Khách sang La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: ImNotLying

True, because back then, people had a shorter life span. My Grandma was 16 when she married my Grandfather. They were together until he died at 83.


24 posted on 12/31/2013 5:45:55 AM PST by dforest
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To: foreverfree

MSM giving Phil the anal exam. They will creep over his entire life looking for any ‘dirt’ or misstatements they can find.
Gotta knock him off that pedestal. Can’t have decent role model.


25 posted on 12/31/2013 5:50:26 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: KoRn

The level of maturity decreases in ratio to the amount of coddlement...: )
That’s the primary difference between 16 year olds 50 years ago and today.


26 posted on 12/31/2013 5:51:36 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: katana

Besides, what standard can they point to that says this or that is “wrong”.

The left tries to remove all guardrails for judgment of their proclivities,
but uses moral judgment as a weapon against their enemies.


27 posted on 12/31/2013 5:52:39 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: wyowolf
15 seems like barely past being a child.

Only because you live in a wealthy society that can afford to keep its offspring in unproductive "adolescence" for ten years or so. Adolescence is an innovation of a rich society. In poorer cultures that adolescence would contribute unbearably to family malnutrition and real poverty- poverty relative to an already subsistence culture.The goal was to marry off the girls before they got pregnant and become thereby unmarriageable. When the boys married young they became socialized to domestic life before they became drunks and libertines. In a society where "higher education is a remote option adolescence is not a useful concept at all.

28 posted on 12/31/2013 5:53:13 AM PST by ThanhPhero (Khách sang La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: Farnsworth

Back in the day, thats how it was done, so what? So where is the faux outrage about Muslim’s marrying 9 year olds????

BiG difference between a 16 year old and a 9 year old in every way.


29 posted on 12/31/2013 5:53:46 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: dforest
Modernity is probably the one word answer.

We have WAAAYYY more access to information at a very early age and that information tends to keep young minds open for more, rather than induce a decision about what their life will or should be.

As ststed previously, a boy of 16 - 20 pretty much knew what he was going to do in life and had a fair grasp on what would be required of him to be a husband and father.

The nuclear family was closer geographically and more often than not, older brothers and sisters were there to help (both young boy and young girl)

I think there is validity to teenagers marrying if they have a strong faith community and family.

A 16 or 20 year old guy has more testosterone than 4 "mature" men of 45 and they can tote that barge and lift that bale a lot longer and quicker than TWO older workers.

And best of all ... they KNOW EVERYTHING and are INDESTRUCTABLE !!!

30 posted on 12/31/2013 5:55:47 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: foreverfree

47 years later they’re still married and seem to be doing fine. Things were different 47 years ago as they were for me. Wife and I got married at 18. Went to school together all our lives and we just had our 40th in October... hoping for a lot more.


31 posted on 12/31/2013 5:57:58 AM PST by maddog55
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To: jsanders2001

yes, my point. media covers the BS muslims do with/to children


32 posted on 12/31/2013 6:01:43 AM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: ThanhPhero
Marriages in traditional cultures do work much better when both partners marry young, females from 14 or so (after puberty, but not much) and males from 16, if the new couple is becoming part of the young man's father's household. The young man has little or no opportunity or resources to begin to support a nuclear family on his own but will continue in the work he has been doing since he was small, be it farming or his father's trade.

That sounds like a workable system. The fact of life is that teens get horny, and it seems better for them to exert that enthusiasm within the confines of marriage, rather than a succession of "hook ups". Living with their parents also provides extra help in caring for babies.

I've been telling my daughters "get married soon after finishing college, because if you wait until 30, the good guys will already be taken".

33 posted on 12/31/2013 6:01:47 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: foreverfree

I know that having married me at age 22 (I was 23), my wife was well into spinsterhood by Phil’s standards, but we were on the young side in our crowd. My wife has put up with me for 30 years and counting. Hoping for at least another 30.

Generally, I agree with the overall sentiment - for folks who are moderately mature, marrying young is better, if circumstances permit.


34 posted on 12/31/2013 6:03:15 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: ThanhPhero

My mom was 15 and my father was 17 when they married in 1926. They were married for over 65 years, had 7 children, my father owned his own business and they gave all of us children a VERY happy home... oh that there would be marriages like that in this generation. Dad and Mom both died at age 86.


35 posted on 12/31/2013 6:04:00 AM PST by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: JohnnyM

Judging by the headline it looks like someone in the press is hoping to make a huge story out of this. After the A&E fiasco, it’ll never happen. Even GLAD won’t jump on this one.


36 posted on 12/31/2013 6:07:21 AM PST by Shannon
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To: Mechanicos

He said it on the Duck Dynasty Show..and that’s a fact, Jack...to quote Si.


37 posted on 12/31/2013 6:12:44 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: foreverfree

I have to disagree with Phil on this one.

I believe their is a 3 tiered approach to staying out of poverty in America:

1. Stay off drugs.

2. Don’t get married or have kids until you’re in your 20’s.

3. Don’t have kids out of wedlock.

Stick to these 3 rules and your chances of ending up in poverty in this country are very slim.


38 posted on 12/31/2013 6:21:08 AM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: wyowolf
Of Ducks and Pockets:

Two of my long time friends married women over 20 YO, both educated. Both had apparently happy marriages until their wives divorced and stripped them. Both wives had been laying their plans for years, one for the entire 17 years of the marriage (17 years is the time required d before an ex wife can get alimony in Florida). Both of the guys had become affluent, Klaus was a jewelry entrepreneur and Art a successful attorney. Each woke up one morning to find that they owned nothing and their wives were kicking them out of the wives' houses.

A third friend (of 50 years) married a 17 YO who had a 9th grade education. He prospered and she made herself into a model housewife that facilitated his ability to prosper. She also educated herself with his encouragement and when their 4 kids were grown she went to work (she doesn't call it work- she loves it)as an office manager in a college where she became the informal editor and collator for several professors' publishings. They are a very contented old couple.

Outside of the immediate subject-> They show that there is much more contentment in old age when one is surrounded by a bunch of grandchildren than when there are only one or two or none.

As for myself, I didn't marry until I was 23 but I had been "courting" my wife more or less since she was 13, 12 actually, but she totally shocked me when she announced it was her birthday. I expected to hear she was now maybe 16 or 17. It was her 13th. The first few years of that time I saw her at her family events and gatherings and ate dinner at her folks' house often, when I was in town. We both of us always kind of knew how it would turn out eventually, I think. It has been good. We do have a bunch of grandchildren but, alas, they are scattered about the world.

39 posted on 12/31/2013 6:24:13 AM PST by ThanhPhero (Khách sang La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: Tax-chick

Exactly. Teenagers will be having sex at 16, in many cases. So, do we want that to happen in the confines of a marriage, or not?


40 posted on 12/31/2013 6:26:33 AM PST by Boogieman
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