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To: fortheDeclaration

Ryan knows that Obamacare is going to hurt dRats in 2014.
Ryan has seen what government shutdown did to republicans a few months back.
Ryan’s deal is basically a neutral deal. It cancels government shutdown.
It is a strategy to cause no harm until 2014 elections.

It may just work. Trying to force a better deal would automatically result in a shutdown. The dRats currently have the veto power. repubs have no power to pass a deal they desire. Another gov’t shutdown will hurt repubs badly in 2014.

Until GOP wins the White House, no better deals are possible. That is the reality.


13 posted on 12/27/2013 11:36:14 PM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: entropy12
No, that isn't reality, that is surrender, the very thing the TeaParty is opposed to.

The shutdown didn't hurt the GOP, that is simply MSM progaganda.

What hurts the GOP is doing 'business as usual', which Ryan is doing.

It isn't a 'neutral deal' it increases the Gov't debt by 2 trillion dollars!

16 posted on 12/28/2013 12:04:54 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: entropy12; fortheDeclaration
The reality is the world's once most deliberative body, the democrat dominated Senate of the United States, is Obama’s rubber stamp.

The reality is our esteemed GOP House quakes at the thought of media criticism, and has granted Obama both pigmentation immunity from his crimes, and de facto control of appropriations.

Conservatives have been waiting for another superman since the departure of Ronaldus Magnus in 1988.

National elections have not and will not lead to restoration of freedom.

Article V.

17 posted on 12/28/2013 2:39:41 AM PST by Jacquerie (To restore the 9th & 10th Amendments, repeal the 17th.)
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To: entropy12

Sounds exactly like karl rove... I disagree with you... you still believe in the republican party... too many of us have seen the light. I may vote for Conservative republicans but the party is dead to me because I do not trust them and the leadership has proven themselves as progressive whores out for their own power and wealth. ryan is a progressive and a statist. I choose to believe my own eyes and ears. I trust no one any longer but GOD and HIS SON.


20 posted on 12/28/2013 3:50:58 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: entropy12

“It is a strategy to cause no harm until 2014 elections.”

Too bad he just lost conservatives ANY military votes that may have been counted. On the other hand, the democrats just may let military votes count in 2014.


23 posted on 12/28/2013 4:14:18 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: entropy12
Ryan has seen what government shutdown did to republicans a few months back.

Then he's blind...it did nothing.

46 posted on 12/28/2013 1:53:54 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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