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Israel to Abbas: No, Jesus was not a Palestinian
Times of Israel ^ | December 23, 2013, 7:07 pm | Raphael Ahren

Posted on 12/23/2013 10:12:25 AM PST by Olog-hai

Israeli officials reacted with bitter scorn to a Christmas message from Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in which he called Jesus a Palestinian and suggested Israel was to blame for the exodus of Christians from the Holy Land.

“He should have read the Gospel before uttering such offensive nonsense, but we will forgive him because he doesn’t know what he’s doing,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor told The Times of Israel on Monday. Abbas’s statement is an “outrageous rewriting of Christian history,” according to Palmor.

Earlier on Monday, Abbas published a lengthy Christmas greeting, calling Jesus “a Palestinian messenger who would become a guiding light for millions around the world.” Although he expressed his commitment to the peace negotiations with Israel, he expressed harsh criticism of Israeli policies, including an accusation that Jerusalem is responsible for the plight of Christians in the Holy Land. …

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abbas; godsgravesglyphs; israel; jesus; jesusofpalestine; letshavejerusalem; palestinianjesus; palestinians; rop; waronterror
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To: Olog-hai
Jesus a so-called 'palestinian!?" ha ha HA! that's tantamount to saying that Jesus didn't even exist. And this from a man whose gang suppresses and tries to kill Christians at every opportunity.... (Abbas murdering liar, go straight to Hell with all your miserable Islamonazi scum together!)
41 posted on 12/23/2013 11:23:27 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: faithhopecharity

Well, the Koran speaks against anyone who calls Jesus the son of God, even claiming that Jesus is going to appear on the last day and deny that he’s the son of God in several versus. The Koran denies Jesus’ crucifixion (claiming that it was an illusion or hologram or something to make it look like he was crucified), instead saying that he was caught up alive to “Allah” in heaven. As long as they believe that, they will come up with all sorts of stuff to justify the Koranic viewpoint.


42 posted on 12/23/2013 11:26:47 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; grania

Now Jesus as the creator of all mankind means that all mankind can trace themselves back to Him. The notion of being Savior has to do with His shed blood paying for the sins of all mankind. But as for the various generations of mankind, prophecy does say that He would be born of the house of David, of the tribe of Judah, and of no other family.


43 posted on 12/23/2013 11:29:08 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Daveinyork

Fifth century BCE. Herodotus.


44 posted on 12/23/2013 11:33:12 AM PST by stormer
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To: kaehurowing
One story has it that ancient Egyptians became Phoneticians then Philistines which were totally wiped out by David I think. One of the Caesars of Rome after conquering the area named the whole middle east Philistia. This I think happened after the destruction of the temple by Titus in 69AD. Jesus would have been an Israeli would haven't he?
45 posted on 12/23/2013 11:33:27 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Viennacon

And the Israeli says, “should have read the Gospel”. Uh...you mean the Good News of the saving grace of Jesus Christ? I pray he will follow his own advice.


46 posted on 12/23/2013 11:33:34 AM PST by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: Olog-hai

You’re killed for switching to worship Him, but He was one of us.

This is how they get all the stupid people on their side.


47 posted on 12/23/2013 11:33:54 AM PST by firebrand
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Sorry bout dat.

As an aside, one of my favorite girlfriends from college was a beautiful Jewish girl with bright red hair and bountiful freckles.

Her entire family was red-headed.

48 posted on 12/23/2013 11:34:45 AM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Olog-hai

” So, Cleopatra was quite possibly AfroGreek.”

The Macedonians in Alexandria were notoriously inbred; they wouldn’t even marry Greeks. They were the ruling social strata and wouldn’t compromise their status. It wasn’t until Julius Caesar pressured them that Macedonians started to mix with Greeks.
Cleo, of the royal line, would have been pure Macedonian.

“Jesus’s ethnicity? The opinions are all over the place.”

His ancestors are all Jews, as listed in his genealogy, which is available.

“Others say he was born in Bethlehem, which makes his ethnicity the ancestors of Palestinians.”

Bethlehem was the city of David, king of the Jews (whose title Jesus also inherited as his descendant). If he was a Bethlehemite, then he was a Jew.


49 posted on 12/23/2013 11:36:09 AM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: M Kehoe; Daveinyork

Prior to 1948, the Jews and Arabs of the land were called PALESTINIANS ... all of them. They were either Palestinian Arabs or they were Palestinian Jews.

After 1948, the term was abandoned for the Jews and they were simply Israelis. The named remained for the “Palestinian Arabs” though, while the Arab part was dropped — because it became redundant without the term “Palestinian Jew”.

AND THUS ... today we have what remains of that original terminology from history — PALESTINIANS.

ALSO ... please note that the STATE OF ISRAEL officially recognizes these people as “Palestinians”. This is stated in official documents and treaties with Israel. And, when you listen to even the Prime Minister of Israel (Benjamin Netanyahu), he refers to them — ALL THE TIME — as Palestinians.

I think if the State of Israel and the Prime Minister of Israel has no problem in referring to them OFFICIALLY that way, then we shouldn’t either.

The truth of the history remains the same no matter the name you use.

OH ... and one more thing the Jerusalem Post was ORIGINALLY called the “Palestinian Post”. The news of the new state of Israel was printed up in the Palestinian Post.


50 posted on 12/23/2013 11:37:07 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Olog-hai
You are arguing with someone who is Jewish. We know our history not the Liberal pro-Palestinian revisionist history taught in colleges and universities.

Despite the proclamations of anti-Israel activists and anti-Semites the truth of the matter is that there has never been a country called ‘Palestine’, nor has there ever been a people called ‘Palestinians’. The entire myth of a Palestinian nation-hood was foisted by the PLO terrorist organization. Many of these ruthless terrorists were honest about this lie admitting that they created this ‘people’ for the express purpose of driving the Jews in the Holy Land into the sea. Yassar Arafat {Yemach Shemo Vezichron/May his name and memory be erased!} was a chief architect of the ‘Palestinian’ lies.

Before the state was declared in 1948 the word ‘Palestinian’ was used by the British as the name for Jews who lived in the British controlled land. But the term was hi-jacked, just as the terrorists hi-jacked planes and buses in order to blow them up, in order to further their jihad against the Jewish state.

There has never been a country called ‘Palestine’ and there is no such thing as a ‘Palestinian people’. The arabs who are occupying Jewish land came to Israel in order to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The British Mandate gave approximately 70% of the British land to the arabs who established the states Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. The arabs who are occupying Israel belong in Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan and should be motivated, either monetarily or physically, to move away from the Jewish state.

The arabs complain about Nakba, their disaster, but how about the Catastrophe that the arabs inflicted on their Jewish populations in 1948. How many Jews were forcibly evicted from their homes, their properties confiscated, when the Jewish state was established? I personally know a Jew of Egyptian heritage that was alive at the time. His family lost their fortune, their home, and their community. The expulsion of arabs from Israel would be justice for the injustice they perpetrated against the Jewish people.

“Palestine” is the name that the Romans gave to the land of Israel when they conquered this land 2000 years ago.


51 posted on 12/23/2013 11:38:09 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: stormer

HUH? what did Herodotus have to do with it?


52 posted on 12/23/2013 11:39:28 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Star Traveler

Yeah, Yeah, the British also called it Palestine, in their ignorance born of their characteristic arrogance.


53 posted on 12/23/2013 11:40:51 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: mountainlion

What happened to the Canaanites were they wiped out


54 posted on 12/23/2013 11:41:09 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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Never thought I’d see the day when Jews would assume the birthright of Christ in this way.


55 posted on 12/23/2013 11:47:00 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Olog-hai

if there was ever a stupid notion, it was that Jesus was a mere phantom who only appeared to have a human body.

Whatever anybody wishes to believe about Jesus and His Divinity, that he was born a baby of Mary the Jew in (probably) Bethleham in Judea and lived as a (Jewish) HUMAN BEING in Judea/Israel is beyond dispute. We know that there were Gnostic influences in the koran.... here’s one of the chief such influences, to deny Jesus son of Mary.

I guess that once they remake Jesus into a mere phantasm then he may as well belong to a phoney, non-existent ethnic group, too.

It all fits together, they deny Jesus existed in any real sense of the word and then they want to shove him into a non-existent category or classification of people that don’t exist as a real entity either.

Abbas, you don’t have to believe in Christianity but please stop making up lies about Jesus! It is insulting, it is blasphemous. And you never know when the good Christians of the world might start punishing blasphemers like you IslamoNazis punish Christians and Jews......


56 posted on 12/23/2013 11:47:57 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: tet68

Wel, He did a little number on the money-changers.

Perhaps that counts? :)


57 posted on 12/23/2013 11:48:41 AM PST by chesley
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To: Olog-hai

Jesus was a carpenter. Have you ever known a Palestinian carpenter? Case dismissed. With prejudice!


58 posted on 12/23/2013 11:50:23 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SkyDancer

It’s my understanding that “Jew” does indeed come from Hebrew “Yehudi” (from “Yehudah” or Judah), and that’s actually the term as it appears in different languages around the world. It wasn’t invented by the goyim. Even English “Jew” is derived from the Germanic form “Jude” (from “Judah”, again). Arabic “Yahud” is cognate.

The Jordanians are right to keep the “Palestinian” Arabs out o their country, because they do not belong there. The whole anti-Israel campaign is actually inspired by Nazism; people from Nasser on down embraced “Islamic socialism”, which is based on national socialism, and “pan-Arabism”, which is based on Nazi pan-Germanism. The Jordanians are right to not want to be a part of that imperialistic Islamic/Arabic caliphate movement.

As for that rather accursed word “Palestine”, it was derived from “Philistine”, and that’s exactly what the “Palestinians” call themselves in Arabic (“al-Filestini”). They are obviously not the same people as the Canaanite Philistines that lived around David’s time.


59 posted on 12/23/2013 11:51:40 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Star Traveler

I think that we shouldn’t listen to left-slanted stuff out of the Israeli government myself.


60 posted on 12/23/2013 11:53:15 AM PST by Olog-hai
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