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Inconvenient Truths About Latest Colorado School Shooting
AIM ^ | 12/16/2013 | Roger Aronoff

Posted on 12/16/2013 8:35:09 AM PST by detective

Coming as it did on the weekend of the one-year anniversary of the Newtown, Connecticut school shooting that killed 26, plus the killer, and wounded two more, it is not surprising that the media downplayed or ignored aspects of the Friday the 13th school shooting in Centennial, Colorado, just miles away from both Columbine and Aurora, the scenes of two other horrific mass shootings.

But this latest incident offered a couple of narratives that the media preferred to ignore. The shooter was Karl Pierson, an 18-year-old, described as very bright, and an excellent debater, who had had run-ins with his debate coach. Early stories said he had been kicked off the debate team, later that he had only been disciplined. But either way, he was no longer an active participant on the team.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; colorado; gunfreezone; guns; karlpierson; school; schoolshooting; shooting
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To: Darksheare
*The shooter was also an avowed socialist.*

I heard on the squishy lamestream media that many of the kids knew that he had “Stong political views”.

The desperate Left is hoping that we'll think it's a TEA Partier, even though the only time a Conservative snaps and shoots up a place is in their dreams and delerium tremens

41 posted on 12/16/2013 10:10:29 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: ETL

I know what pushed this kid over the edge. It is the same thing that pushes most liberals over the edge.

Reason and logic.

One can imagine this 18 year old (a demographic that is worshiped by liberals as somehow being the most enlightened) getting involved in a debate with his now dead teacher.

He most certainly thought he was far more intelligent than any stupid high school teacher, particularly if the teacher was not a far left liberal moonbat quoting Noam Chomsky.

One can imagine the spittle lipped fury of the dead perp as the debating coach patiently, using logic, backed this now deceased student into one logical corner after another. I suppose that most teachers would be fairly gentle about this, but in reading reports, it sounds like the dead student was becoming increasingly combatative and abusive, and was raising eyebrows even before being kicked off the debating team.

I have seen this happen in real life repeatedly with liberals as they attempt to engage in civil discourse, only to find they don’t have a leg to stand on. Their logic is a mile wide and a nanometer deep, and as soon as you penetrate it...pfft. The only thing you get out of them after that is “Halliburton is evil” and “No Blood for Oil”.

Our mistake as conservatives is to allow them (as Ann Coulter once put it) to build entire castles and edifices on a foundation of lies, and we end up attacking the fortress instead of the foundation.


42 posted on 12/16/2013 10:12:47 AM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: Darksheare
*And yes, it is sick that the left uses and espouses violence to advance their point/agenda.*

The HAVE to resort to violence. There aren't enough people dimwitted enough to go along with Socialism voluntarily!

43 posted on 12/16/2013 10:13:01 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: detective

As with everything with the liberal media; the victims do not matter. it is the message that is important. Therefore they ignore the facts when it does not support their message, or create them when there is nothing else.

Hate filled angry people trying to control others.


44 posted on 12/16/2013 10:15:29 AM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: detective

Time to introduce Federal legislation banning debate team.


45 posted on 12/16/2013 10:18:25 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
*The Republican Party: Health Care: Let ‘em Die, Climate Change: Let ‘em Die, Gun Violence: Let ‘em Die, Women’s Rights: Let ‘em Die, More War: Let ‘em Die. Is this really the side you want to be on?’*

There's s ome irony for you!

It SHOULD read:

The Democrat Party: Health Care: Let ‘em Die-death panels, more poverty, worse insurance.
Climate Change: Let ‘em Die-turning all countries into third world totalitarian Socialist dictatorships, sending our economy to another solar system.

Gun Violence: Let ‘em Die-Don’t defend yourself. Don't allow anyone in a school to defend the kids.

Women’s Rights: Let ‘em Die- Non sequitur, also half of the aborted babies are female.
More War: Let ‘em Die. -they mean let the non-Communists die so they can bring about a Worker's “paradise”
Is this really the side you want to be on?’

46 posted on 12/16/2013 10:18:58 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: Myrddin

depends on your date of birth.


47 posted on 12/16/2013 10:18:58 AM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: PATRIOT1876
There aren't enough people dimwitted enough to go along with Socialism voluntarily!

I wouldn't be so sure about that. The country has gotten "progressively" stupider over the past few decades.

48 posted on 12/16/2013 10:21:31 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: rlmorel

Too early to say. There could be a variety of things that triggered this. Plus the arguments between him and his debate coach could have been about anything. De we even know what the coach’s politics are? I would say more likely to the left than right.


49 posted on 12/16/2013 10:29:38 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: detective
Try going to drudge, the blaze, or (shudder) infowars, the perp was an anti-gun, devote socialist.
50 posted on 12/16/2013 11:11:24 AM PST by nomad
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
I finished at 16. Graduated from UCSD at 19. Had a 1A draft card in my wallet. Too busy with school work to take a poll for average age of a HS senior.
51 posted on 12/16/2013 11:20:52 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: dirtymac
depends on your date of birth.

End of August for me. Just in time for the school year.

52 posted on 12/16/2013 11:22:39 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: PATRIOT1876

Actually given that a large swath of abortions (worldwide that is) are done because the unborn is female I would say that more than half of aborted babies are female.


53 posted on 12/16/2013 11:28:18 AM PST by xp38
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To: ETL

He looks like a blond/red-headed version of the freak in Newtown. Same soulless, dead eyes, weird smile, awful gawkiness. And a commie 18 year old with a pretty swanky car!


54 posted on 12/16/2013 11:40:14 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Myrddin

Youi realize, don’t you. that one of the things conservatives hate about liberals is the fact that they believe all of history ^began^ the day they were born.


55 posted on 12/16/2013 11:42:50 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: Darksheare

CNN is vague enough in the following article to portray him as anti-Communist.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/14/us/colorado-school-gunman-karl-pierson/


56 posted on 12/16/2013 11:53:23 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: detective

The murderer had one shotgun, one machete, and 3 Molotov cocktail bombs, one of which he set off.

Notice the behavior of the left (er, “progressives”) in the media and politics: Nobody cares about the bombs, they only care about the gun.

I care that a young woman’s life was taken from her, figuratively if not literally and that a young man threw away his life because was seduced by the evils of socialism (er, “progressivism”). I also care that the ability of the average citizen to defend their own lives and their loved ones may be encumbered or hampered by new laws that restrict their ability to have an effective means of self defense.


57 posted on 12/16/2013 11:55:30 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: PATRIOT1876

“There aren’t enough people dimwitted enough to go along with Socialism voluntarily!”

Except for the 60mm or so who voted the 0traitor POS into office, twice.


58 posted on 12/16/2013 12:35:39 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: ETL

It is true. But what else drives a liberal to violence other than having their sacred cows logically slaughtered?

And slaughtering socialism for someone who understands it is not hard to do.


59 posted on 12/16/2013 12:54:21 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: ETL

“One can hardly be a pacifist and support these things.”

Yet pacifists line up to participate. Pacifists are socially retarded. That being my point, and well backed by your post I might add.


60 posted on 12/16/2013 1:00:23 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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