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1 posted on 12/11/2013 3:19:23 AM PST by Jacquerie
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Article V ping!


2 posted on 12/11/2013 3:21:43 AM PST by Jacquerie (Now launch the Constitutional Spring! Support an Article V Amendment Convention.)
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Yes, the tyranny has happened because of the 17th Amendment.
But the 16th Amendement, the personal income tax, is what they use to tyrannize the population. The 16th Amendment, the federal income tax, must go!
3 posted on 12/11/2013 3:29:37 AM PST by StormEye
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To: Jacquerie

Start talking with your state legislators NOW. Give them a heads up that this coming and the opposition they will face.

I had a similar experience while talking up the 10th amendment project with my state legislator. He brought up the slavery argument. My response was if they are going to say I’m racist, then all the pro-abortion legislators are child molesters. Unfortunately, he was defeated before I could get him to let me address the House. I have to start all over with a less accessible representative.


5 posted on 12/11/2013 3:43:06 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Jacquerie

You are quite correct. The LEFT has spent a century dismantling our Republican structure of government—and they will not give up without a fight. The state legislatures will face a propaganda onslaught unlike anything we have seen so far.

In addition to AGITPROP, Obama has already demonstrated his willingness to use any means necessary to destroy the opposition. He will use the full power of the federal government to stifle the Article V. movement. The legislators will need the courage of the Founders—and the backing of an organized, volunteer grass roots movement numbering in the millions.

We must all sign up now and recruit everyone we know. This is our ONLY chance to save America and restore the Constitution.

Join the fight:
http://convention.movements.us/


8 posted on 12/11/2013 4:22:23 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Jacquerie

Colorado should be part of this—and actively pursuing such.But I am no longer sure there are any in this States political fray could be trusted to represent the Constitutional issues.a State where an Administrative Law Judge can order a Baker to provide services to Reprobates—who declares in his opine :”Conceptually-refusing same sex couples on religious grounds is no different that refusing a biracial couple on religious grounds.” So far I ‘ve heard lots of citizens complaining but Nothing but silence from our Legislators.When a State no longer allows recognition for the rights of conscience in its laws can it be trusted with mere politics?


10 posted on 12/11/2013 4:28:01 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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I haven’t even seen a proposed amendment yet, and we know what will happen if this convention gets together without a set agenda.

Yes, I keep getting sent links to articles that keep discussing the ‘convention of states’, but nothing addressing the proposed amendment. A specific amendment needs to be floated about to start building support now, not after another obscure meeting that will only likely lead to an agreement for another meeting ad naseum ....

We only need the States delegates to vote up or down on the amendment, not write the amendments themselves. That would be a disaster, but that’s where this looks to be going.

Delegates must be restricted from holding political office. They can be nominated from within the pool of State Politicians, but it needs to be a requirement that they stop down.

So as long as this talk keeps going on without at least an amendment floated about, it’s likely to amount to nothing at best, and at worst manipulated to include “everything” on the table, including 2nd, and 1st amendment changes.


13 posted on 12/11/2013 5:07:19 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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Thanks for the well-reasoned post; link; thread. Interesting idea and discussion pro/con. BTTT!


16 posted on 12/11/2013 6:01:02 AM PST by PGalt
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I understand all the arguments against the 17th Amendment. But by the same token, it is the only thing that allows the people to make radical changes to the Senate’s makeup by electing outsiders. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that if the 17th Amendment was not in place then the only way men like Ted Cruz or Mike Lee would see the inside of the Senate chamber is on a tour.


18 posted on 12/11/2013 6:11:31 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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Excellent!


27 posted on 12/11/2013 2:28:38 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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bttt


28 posted on 12/11/2013 4:08:09 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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Their predictable first reaction will be to smear the reputations and character of Article V/Anti-17th Amendment supporters. Their foul-mouthed gutter attacks will make their jihads against Robert Bork, Clarence Thomas, Ken Starr, and Ted Cruz appear rational.

And that's just the establishment Republicans (shudder)!

30 posted on 12/11/2013 7:57:02 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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