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To: Jacquerie

I haven’t even seen a proposed amendment yet, and we know what will happen if this convention gets together without a set agenda.

Yes, I keep getting sent links to articles that keep discussing the ‘convention of states’, but nothing addressing the proposed amendment. A specific amendment needs to be floated about to start building support now, not after another obscure meeting that will only likely lead to an agreement for another meeting ad naseum ....

We only need the States delegates to vote up or down on the amendment, not write the amendments themselves. That would be a disaster, but that’s where this looks to be going.

Delegates must be restricted from holding political office. They can be nominated from within the pool of State Politicians, but it needs to be a requirement that they stop down.

So as long as this talk keeps going on without at least an amendment floated about, it’s likely to amount to nothing at best, and at worst manipulated to include “everything” on the table, including 2nd, and 1st amendment changes.


13 posted on 12/11/2013 5:07:19 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo
...without a set agenda...

It does have a purpose... to reign in the National government, and restore it to a federal government.

nothing addressing the proposed amendment...

Term limits for congress, term limits for judiciary, balancing the budget, Remove the 17th... See Levin's book for his thoughts; others have been discussing potential amendments; but, the specifics await the actual convention... and that won't happen till sometime perhaps in 2015 (there is a 3-day meeting in December 2014 to decide on rules).

14 posted on 12/11/2013 5:42:39 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Usagi_yo
We only need the States delegates to vote up or down on the amendment, not write the amendments themselves. That would be a disaster, but that’s where this looks to be going...

That's not how it will work... there is precedent for a convention. There are a few articles, the links escape me for the moment, one in the Florida Law Journal... the other in some similar spot in another state, where the history of the these conventions is described and discussed. There is no disaster here... keep in mind that it takes 34 states to propose, and then 38 states to ratify.

15 posted on 12/11/2013 5:45:30 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Usagi_yo

Get a copy of Mark Levin’s Liberty Amendments.


17 posted on 12/11/2013 6:04:30 AM PST by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: Usagi_yo
SM 476

“Our goal is to have 34 state legislatures pass the petition in the years 2014 and 2015 then hold the convention in late 2015 or early 2016.”

If 34 or more states use identical language in their convention requests, there will be no BS reason for congress to not call a convention. Plans to logically approach the process appears to be what was discussed at Mount Vernon.

It is the best approach.

Gather up in convention the state delegates, who will have commissions that define and limit their authority, then work on amendment specifics.

19 posted on 12/11/2013 6:16:15 AM PST by Jacquerie (Now launch the Constitutional Spring! Support an Article V Amendment Convention.)
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