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Physician says Obamacare is causing 'chaos' for doctors
cnbc.com ^ | December 03, 2013 | Ben Thompson

Posted on 12/03/2013 2:12:37 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Dr. Bill Grace, founder of Grace Oncology in NYC and an assistant professor of clinical medicine at New York Medical College, told CNBC Monday night that the enrollment problems also are causing significant problems for doctors.

"Right now that back end is in chaos. … We don't even know if we should sign up for these plans, because we have a suspicion that many of [them] offer very little reimbursement or offer a loss to the physicians who are going to see these patients," Grace told Larry Kudlow on CNBC's "Kudlow Report".

"No physician wants to take money out of his pocket and put it in the government's."

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To: PGR88

“Indian Reservations (supposedly sovereign land) need to get into the medical business.”

THAT, my friend, is a singular stroke of unadulterated GENIUS!

If the GOP cannot muster the courage to drive a spike through the skull of Obamacare, we may ALL be looking to “the Sovereign Nations” within our National borders to get decent health care.


41 posted on 12/03/2013 3:39:09 PM PST by HKMk23 (ditditdit dahdahdah ditditdit)
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To: clee1

I’m glad to hear this, but if there is not a visible protest in this country by docs and nurses very soon, the 2014 election will not be effected sufficiently.


42 posted on 12/03/2013 3:42:57 PM PST by TomasUSMC
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To: mdmathis6

Please get your march on soon. If we can’t take the Senate in 2014, you folks will be facing a future that is instantly dark and desolate.


43 posted on 12/03/2013 3:45:13 PM PST by TomasUSMC
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To: ziravan

The docs and healthcare providers better stop scratching their heads and get out and start marching and writing their checks to Ted Cruz.


44 posted on 12/03/2013 3:47:31 PM PST by TomasUSMC
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To: BfloGuy

You’re in the minority. NY is generationally liberal, so your stuck with the generalization.


45 posted on 12/03/2013 3:56:28 PM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: svcw

LOL

Same up here.

I run into people from out of town during Summer when I’m in Carmel or San Francisco.

They are usually in shorts(as am I but, I love it) and complaining mighily about how cold it is.(Whudda I know. I walk around Tahoe in shorts)

I tell em to come back in spring or fall but never in summer or winter.

Carmel avg temp 59/ San Francisco 62

Always carry at least a windbreaker. We have the most awesome micro climates anywhere.


46 posted on 12/03/2013 4:00:32 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"No physician wants to take money out of his pocket and put it in the government's."

It's for the PEOPLE, you rich, greedy Republican b@$t@rd. Now shut up and empty your pockets.

/Joseph Stalin, aka Barack Insane 0bama Junior

47 posted on 12/03/2013 4:01:21 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Temporary tag line - RIP Paul Walker)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

You think things are chaotic now? Just wait until hundreds, thousands and maybe even tens of thousands of folks start being killed by obamacare towards the end of January when they no longer have medical insurance or medical care from their doctors because obamacare cancelled their insurance and they were unable to obtain comparable insurance or medical care.

I’m talking about chronically ill people who are being kept alive by highly specialized treatments by highly specialized doctors in highly specialized treatment centers. You don’t treat cancer, hemophilia, cystic fibrosis, psoriatic arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, heart disease, childhood genetic diseases, and thousands of other such diseases in the ER.

Those are the people who will truly suffer and die because their existing insurance has been cancelled and they are unable to sign up for new insurance, or unable to afford new insurance, or are offered only policies that no longer include their existing specialized care givers.

Obama and the Democrats are going to have blood on their hands if they persist in trying to implement their totally unworkable legislation when it starts to kill innocent children. We need to show the nation that blood so we can end this horror.


48 posted on 12/03/2013 4:01:48 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: svcw

yeah, been at the shoulder thing for two years. Just want the pain to go away so I can go back to working out, hiking, surfing, etc.

Or, or, or....Just tell me this is it and I can look forward to learning how to maneuver around the mechanics of what causes pain and avoid it....Well, minimize it.

Frickin hurts every day.

Blah, Blah...

Could be worse:

I could pregnant and single....Bonus! Being a 50 yr old man would make me famous or a freak...


49 posted on 12/03/2013 4:03:16 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

Wasn’t it Mark Twain that said the coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco?


50 posted on 12/03/2013 4:08:26 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: svcw

“I drink a lot ;-)”

LOL


51 posted on 12/03/2013 4:11:53 PM PST by moovova
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To: Tailgunner Joe


52 posted on 12/03/2013 4:13:40 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: svcw

Yep...


53 posted on 12/03/2013 4:14:41 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Salvation
...analogy of ObamaFlowers...

Where did you get this analogy? Did you write it?

I want to send it around, but I would like to give credit to the author.

54 posted on 12/03/2013 4:39:01 PM PST by foxfield (Support the Tea Party. The Tea Party supports you.)
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To: foxfield

I got it in an email and no credit was given for it.


55 posted on 12/03/2013 4:49:07 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TomasUSMC
There is an ongoing visible protest. Just not one on the Mall in D.C.

The protest occurs everytime a nurse or doctor talks to anyone, anywhere, about what is happening to the business of medicine AND the results that it is going to have of the delivery of services to patients. I think it a very effective method of protest/education.

Then, look at the practicalities of a mass protest. Do you really want 2-5 million of the Nation's medical professionals on the D.C. Mall or say 250K of a State's medical pool storming a State Capitol? Chaos is what would result - millions of patients would not be serviced during the protest and WHOM would the media and the Administration blame? Why, those evil fatcat medical providers, of course!

And we medical professionals often work ridiculous hours and days. When would we have time to organize, much less attend, a mass protest?

No, FRiend, we are in a position to be MUCH more effective on an individual basis.

56 posted on 12/03/2013 4:59:46 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Biggirl

Remember, Obama’s mentor said some 25,000,000 would have to die to achieve the Lefitst goal. They never said who or how.


57 posted on 12/03/2013 5:25:24 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
Dems would walk into gas chambers if Obama told them to.

I would have no problem with that.

58 posted on 12/03/2013 5:27:59 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I would imagine that reimbursement to doctors will be better than Medicare but less than private plans. I’m surprised that the insurers haven’t told the providers and have their networks set up by now.


59 posted on 12/03/2013 6:00:20 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: clee1

I believe that obamacare has been the law now for a couple of years....and your protests I’d say have not had the intended effectiveness. If the Government takes over healthcare many many more will suffer than what a few days in a march to D.C. would cause. Of course emergency treatment would not be destaffed but most docs are not treating life threatening illness .....although I can imagine that if all dentist took a week off, well even a hundred thousand folks with a terrible tooth ache would be quite a mouthful of rukus.

I hope we stop it soon.


60 posted on 12/03/2013 10:18:16 PM PST by TomasUSMC
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