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Mary Cheney, Liz Cheney and Left-Wing Hate
Townhall ^ | 11/26/2013 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 11/26/2013 12:16:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind

There are individual haters on the right and individual haters on the left. But there is no large-scale hatred in the United States of America today that compares with the hatred of the left for the right. Whereas the right regards the left as wrong -- even destructively wrong -- the left regards all those on the right as evil. Sexist, intolerant, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, racist, bigoted -- these are typical descriptions of the right made by the most respected names on the left.

This hatred is what enabled MSNBC's Martin Bashir to broadcast -- reading from a teleprompter, meaning that it was not spontaneous -- that Sarah Palin deserves to have someone defecate into her mouth. (He later offered a serious apology.) But among all of the left's hatreds, none compares with its hatred of anyone who believes that marriage should remain defined as the union of a man and a woman. The left believes anyone, or any business, that supports the only gender-based definition of marriage that had ever existed should be politically, personally and economically destroyed. Recall, for example, the left's attempt to drive out of business a restaurant in Los Angeles because one of its employees donated one hundred dollars to California's Proposition 8, the left's boycott of Chick-fil-A and the left's vicious attacks on the Mormon Church.

This greatest of contemporary American hatreds expressed itself again in the last two weeks after Liz Cheney, running for the Republican nomination for U.S. senator from Wyoming, said that she believes in the traditional definition of marriage.

The comment would have probably gone almost universally unreported were it not for a Facebook post written by Heather Poe, the woman who is married to Liz's lesbian sister, Mary Cheney:

"Liz has been a guest in our home, has spent time and shared holidays with our children, and when Mary and I got married in 2012 -- she didn't hesitate to tell us how happy she was for us. To have her now say she doesn't support our right to marry is offensive to say the least."

Mary Cheney shared the message on her own Facebook page, adding, "Liz -- this isn't just an issue on which we disagree --you're just wrong -- and on the wrong side of history."

This triggered a tsunami of left-wing hate against Liz.

New York Times columnist Frank Bruni:

"Isn't there a tradition of close-knit family members' taking care not to wound one another? ... Liz and Mary aren't speaking to each other now, and there's a long shadow over the Cheneys' holiday get-togethers. Is any political office worth that? ... I'm imagining her awkwardness the next time that she goes to hug or kiss them (and I'm assuming that she's a hugger or kisser, which may be a leap)."

New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd:

" ... the spectacle of Liz, Dick and Lynne throwing Mary Cheney and her wife, Heather Poe, and their two children under the campaign bus. ... Dick's Secret Service code name was once 'Backseat.' Liz's should be 'Backstab.'"

Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson:

"Liz Cheney is also the sort of person who would not only throw her sister under the bus but also effectively do the same to her sister's young son and daughter. ... The Cheney sisters, once extremely close, reportedly haven't spoken since the summer. What price political ambition?"

Blogger Andrew Sullivan:

"I would like to respond on behalf of Mary and Heather and the rest of us: f--k [Sullivan, of course, spelled out the word] your compassion. ... You cannot publicly attack your own sister's family and say you love her as well. It does not compute."

On Anderson Cooper's CNN program, Sullivan repeated these themes, and was echoed by fellow left-wing panelists Peter Beinart and Jeffrey Toobin.

The hatred of the left on this issue is matched only by the superficiality of their arguments.

Let's get this straight: it is not throwing people under the bus to disagree with a relative -- even if the relative lives out something you oppose.

Some questions for Bruni, Robinson, Dowd, Sullivan, Beinart and Toobin:

1. Imagine a person who opposes unwed motherhood (that is, single women voluntarily getting pregnant). Further imagine that this person has an unwed sister who did get pregnant and is now an unwed mother. Do you deny that such a person can love their sister even while opposing unwed motherhood? Or do you believe that if one loves a family member, one must cease holding any conviction that runs against that family member's behavior? That continuing to hold that conviction means throwing the family member under the bus?

2. Do you believe that it is morally acceptable for all gays to stop speaking to their siblings -- one of the worst things a person can do to a sibling and to one's parents -- solely because the sibling believes in the man-woman definition of marriage? Or do you only defend Mary Cheney's decision to cut off relations with her sister because you hate the Cheneys?

3. When a Jewish or Catholic parent or sibling speaks out against interfaith marriage, should the intermarried member of the family stop speaking to that parent or sibling?

I have received numerous emails from parents and siblings of gays who have completely cut off communications with their parents and siblings solely because those parents and siblings oppose same-sex marriage. In my view, this decision to shatter one's family over this issue is the real immorality here.

The support of Bruni, Robinson, Dowd, Sullivan, Beinart and Toobin for this shattering of families by gay family members is not only morally wrong. It is frightening. Clearly, for them it is not enough for parents and siblings to show their gay family member love -- and even celebrate their gay relative's family -- they must also permanently shut their mouths.

This is not only left-wing hatred. It is left-wing totalitarianism: Your good and kind behavior is completely insufficient. You must also speak and think as we do.

Or we will destroy you.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: cheney; cheneys; gaymarriage; homonaziagenda; homosexuality; lesbonazifascism; lizcheney; marycheney; memebuilding; mikeenzi; missmarycheney; mrslizcheney; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; wyoming
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1 posted on 11/26/2013 12:16:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

MSNBC is still trying to milk this story, even though it’s old “news”. Their latest spin is that it’s all a fake plot by the Cheney family for some nefarious purpose.


2 posted on 11/26/2013 12:21:53 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: SeekAndFind

The viciousness of the Left’s attacks is over the top. A difference of opinion or philosophy or ideology is just that. The Left is encouraged in their hatred of Conservatives by the Bamster and his sycophant Media.


3 posted on 11/26/2013 12:22:26 PM PST by originalbuckeye (The greater the power, the more dangerous the abuse.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hate the left. Happy Thanksgiving.


4 posted on 11/26/2013 12:22:35 PM PST by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: sappy

It’s ok to hate evil.
Heb 1:9


5 posted on 11/26/2013 12:25:07 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

yay me. lol


6 posted on 11/26/2013 12:26:53 PM PST by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: ozzymandus

Trying to make us think Liz is anti-gay marriage or pro-life probably at least until the election


7 posted on 11/26/2013 12:28:03 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ozzymandus
>> it’s all a fake plot by the Cheney family for some nefarious purpose. <<

Namely getting Liz elected to the Senate by portraying her as a tough conservative "fighter" who is willing to stand up on "principle" even if her sister severs ties with her over it.

8 posted on 11/26/2013 12:28:11 PM PST by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Isn't there a tradition of close-knit family members' taking care not to wound one another?

I like to think so . . . and Mary should have NEVER disrespected her whole family by entering into a same-sex "marriage", a term that I really do not think applies to such an arrangement. But one of the main character flaws of homosexuals, in my observation, is that everyhing is about THEM. Never mind the embarrassment to the family, the deleterious impact on children that they bring into their relationship, and the adverse impact on traditional families in general, which in turn has a devastating impact on children from broken homes and single-parent families. But Mary and her "partner" are just fine with the negative influences they have because THEY are happy with their situation . . . screw everybody else.

9 posted on 11/26/2013 12:40:32 PM PST by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: SeekAndFind

The author of this piece does his credibility no good when he describes the lesbian pair as married without so much as a quotation mark.


10 posted on 11/26/2013 12:58:35 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hard to know how seriously to take any of this.

It looks like a well-orchestrated piece of political theater.

Not that the Cheneys actually sat down and planned out the whole thing together -- but everybody's playing a role and everybody knows everybody is playing a role assigned to the them by politics and public image maintenance.

More chumpbait for the media to get worked up about.

11 posted on 11/26/2013 1:01:48 PM PST by x
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To: SeekAndFind

I have read similar theories here on FR…. some here hate Liz Cheney and say that her statements about marriage are all just so she can get elected. It is not just the left who have a nasty tongue or pen


12 posted on 11/26/2013 1:14:51 PM PST by Nifster
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To: GeronL

good you are just like the left


13 posted on 11/26/2013 1:15:29 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

not trusting RINOs makes me like the left?


14 posted on 11/26/2013 1:29:01 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Nifster

Liz Cheney has promoted gay marriage for years.

Liz Cheney supports gay marriage, homosexualizing the military, fought against DOMA, and even against a constitutional amendment, and was happy when the state department went gay.

You can give up on this campaign scam.


15 posted on 11/26/2013 1:31:36 PM PST by ansel12 ( A nobody could shoot Reagan, a God like JFK requires a massive conspiracy, not merely a bullet.)
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To: ansel12

show me where

Liz is not Mary


16 posted on 11/26/2013 1:34:51 PM PST by Nifster
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To: GeronL

when someone consistently publicly has said what they think about marriage and you call her a liar that hardly constitutes not trusting a RINO. Liz has not held office. She has been consistent in her philosophy over the years. Prove to me that she is a RINO and I will apologize humbly


17 posted on 11/26/2013 1:36:45 PM PST by Nifster
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To: ozzymandus

It is a “fake plot by the Cheney family for some nefarious purpose.”, there is no question about that.

Liz Cheney only switched positions for this campaign, after years of being pro-gay, and pro-gay marriage.

The Cheneys have been dedicated to this cause for years, Dick Cheney wanted to run on it in 2000.


18 posted on 11/26/2013 1:38:29 PM PST by ansel12 ( A nobody could shoot Reagan, a God like JFK requires a massive conspiracy, not merely a bullet.)
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To: Nifster

“Unlike Enzi, the 46-year-old daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney supports the right for states to legalize gay marriage. At least that’s what she said in 2009, in an interview with MSNBC, of all places. At that was a time when the notion of same-sex marriage had considerably less support.”

“And that has even Daily Kos writer Scott Welch offering at least limited praise for Liz Cheney. Cheney, Welch writes:

“”Well, look I think, you know, my family has been very clear about this, that we think freedom means freedom for everybody and that this is an issue that states have to decide for themselves.””

“”She went on to reiterate opposition to a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, expressed support for the State Department’s extension of benefits to same-sex couples, and said, ‘I think it’s wrong to discriminate, in those relationships, based on someone’s sexual preference.’ Additionally, she supported repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.””


19 posted on 11/26/2013 1:40:30 PM PST by ansel12 ( A nobody could shoot Reagan, a God like JFK requires a massive conspiracy, not merely a bullet.)
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To: Nifster

You seem to have changed your tune, weeks ago you were merely defending the idea of her being for gay marriage.

You seem to be just a social liberal.

To: yellowdoghunter
so you want her to condemn her own sister???
104 posted on 11/2/2013 6:15:20 PM by Nifster

To: yellowdoghunter
single deal breakers have cost conservatives many an election. Social issues are a concern but mean NOTHING if we are a bankrupt third world nation with a jobless rate that would embarrass any other ‘civilized’ country
115 posted on 11/3/2013 7:13:42 AM by Nifster


20 posted on 11/26/2013 1:51:56 PM PST by ansel12 ( A nobody could shoot Reagan, a God like JFK requires a massive conspiracy, not merely a bullet.)
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