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New Mexico police shoot at van full of kids during traffic stop
FOX 8 WGHP ^ | November 18, 2013 | WEB STAFF FOX

Posted on 11/18/2013 8:36:40 AM PST by MarMema

Edited on 11/18/2013 9:11:25 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

NEW MEXICO

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

But apparently the State thought it was safe to go 55 in THAT stretch.


81 posted on 11/18/2013 11:41:19 AM PST by DManA (enis)
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To: NormsRevenge
"...for a 71 in a 55 mph infraction."As of stop 2 this has nothing to do with a simple speeding ticket nor would what we define here as reckless driving be enough. I don't know NM law well enough to know what this is for sure but it is certainly some sort of reckless endangerment, child endangerment, and probably a half dozen other things. There was no excuse for cop1, or cop2 for that matter, to have let her escape a second time.
82 posted on 11/18/2013 11:42:42 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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To: cuban leaf
If you are pulled over by a motorcycle cop, you’re getting a ticket.

Stands to reason. If they don't have cause to write you a ticket, they shouldn't be pulling you over.

83 posted on 11/18/2013 11:43:29 AM PST by Hugin ( More firepower1)
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To: MarMema

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84 posted on 11/18/2013 11:53:42 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Hugin

Stands to reason. If they don’t have cause to write you a ticket, they shouldn’t be pulling you over.


The point being that when I get pulled over by cops in cars, I get off with a warning most of the time, but with motorcycles, never. Not once. Even when both of us got along famously, they always ticket for something.


85 posted on 11/18/2013 11:55:10 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Uncle Chip

86 posted on 11/18/2013 11:55:29 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: MarMema

New Mexico should have Predator™ drones in the air loaded with Hellfire™ missiles for this type of runaway mother and kids situation. < /sarc >


87 posted on 11/18/2013 11:59:24 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DManA
But apparently the State thought it was safe to go 55 in THAT stretch.

You seem to be a slow child
or require professional help
for anger management.

Are you permitted to drive a motor vehicle in Minnesota ?

Do you know the difference between a WHITE road sign
and a YELLOW road sign ?

Please stay in Minnesota.


88 posted on 11/18/2013 12:33:25 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

A little projection going on there my friend. I’m cool as clam. You on the other hand are blowing a gasket.


89 posted on 11/18/2013 1:24:41 PM PST by DManA (enis)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Get much snow this weekend? Just rained down here.


90 posted on 11/18/2013 1:35:14 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: DManA

“No death penalty for “physical attack”.

Are you saying that Zimmerman was not justified?


91 posted on 11/18/2013 1:53:18 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Jonty30

The other issue is she may have wrecked on the mountain road and injured other people or herself and passengers.

The ongoing argument about pursuits is always a mixture of criminals getting away and/or LEO or innocents being injured/killed. If a car is pursued and runs into innocents killing them, then the cops are bad guys for pursuing. If the cops do not pursue and fleeing person runs into innocents then the cops are bad guys for not pursuing/stopping the person before the accident. If person flees because it turns out they are serial killer or other very bad person then cops are bad guys for letting the person get away. There are a lot of considerations in handling fleeing people, not really easy solutions.

In this case I think she should have been cuffed and put in patrol car after she was stopped the second time for sure. That would have helped keep her from being able to flee again and made it easier for them to deal with her son when he became stupid. In my opinion the LEO didn’t handle this well and it got out of control. I also think the woman is a criminal that is raising her children to be criminals.


92 posted on 11/18/2013 2:19:36 PM PST by Tammy8
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To: TexasGator

Are you saying the cop was on the ground getting his head bashed into the concrete?


93 posted on 11/18/2013 2:30:30 PM PST by DManA (enis)
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To: DManA

“Are you saying the cop was on the ground getting his head bashed into the concrete?”

No. Just countering your claim that one is not justified in using deadly force when physically attacked.


94 posted on 11/18/2013 2:56:43 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Obviously I didn’t claim that.
Oh yes you did.
Oh no I didn’t.

repeat 25 times.

Fun times on Free Republic.


95 posted on 11/18/2013 2:59:57 PM PST by DManA (enis)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Get much snow this weekend? Just rained down here.

I fully expected snow but it only rained
here in the valley at 7000 feet.

96 posted on 11/18/2013 3:23:35 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

That’s surprising, I’m at 7400’ but much farther south.


97 posted on 11/18/2013 3:34:53 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Gasshog

Agreed. If the cops didn’t try to stop her and she killed herself and kids or other people in an accident...they were negligent.

Not knowing if the 14YO was armed they had to investigate in case someone in the car had a weapon or was being held hostage. If they didn’t...they are negligent.

Shooting at the tires was a last resort to stop her. She ended up driving at up to 100mph on that road which is very mountainous and twisty. I’m glad they did what they did and she’s lucky she and her kids walked away unharmed.


98 posted on 11/18/2013 5:33:25 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: liberalh8ter
No. Once the van is pulling away there is no threat. And trying to shoot out a tire is just dumb.

They have radios, they have more cops up the road, they have spike strips and so on. Absolutely no legitimate reason to shoot.

Everybody there goofed up big time but shooting at a fleeing car occupied by innocent people, when it is not in any way an immediate threat, can not be condoned.

99 posted on 11/18/2013 6:37:26 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (R.I P. my old FRiend and neighbor Blackie Owens. Be ever vigilant!)
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To: Clinging Bitterly
They have radios, they have more cops up the road, they have spike strips and so on.

NM State Police patrol pretty large areas. 2 of my nephews were on the force for a while and each had 800 to 1000 square miles of area where they were the only NMSP. I was surprised to see three cruisers in this video. About 400 officers and over 200,000 square miles.

100 posted on 11/18/2013 6:44:02 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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