Posted on 11/13/2013 9:17:01 AM PST by GIdget2004
Despite his devotion to dinner time prayers and Christian values, "Duck Dynasty" star Willie Robertson has been axed from speaking at a benefit in Bristol, Tenn. for the faith and bible-driven organization, Family Ministries.
Why?
Wine.
The famous family announced its latest business venture last week: Duck Commander Wines. In conjunction with the winemakers of Trinchero Family Estates in Napa, the Robertsons' own line of Red, Moscato and Chardonnay is slated to hit stores next month. According to the Ministries, Duck Commander Wines goes against the organization's core values.
"Our greatest responsibility is to the young people we serve. Therefore, we feel that in light of the recent news, to continue with this event would send mixed messages to the young people who go through our Adolescent Drug and Alcohol program," Derek Bell, director of development for Family Ministries stated. "Our message must be consistent. The lives of those children may well hang in the balance. We certainly apologize to the people who have already purchased tickets, and pray they understand our position."
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They must certainly now have to boycott the second chapter of the Gospel of John, as well!
Not only does Jesus seem to endorse wine, he MAKES it!
And it was really GOOD Wine, too.
Did not Jesus turn water into WINE in his first miracle? No, it was not Grape Juice! Hypocrites!
Leaving aside the fact that our Savior actually MADE wine and then told us to drink it in his remembrance....
That’s okay, Willie. They wouldn’t let Jesus come either, because He drank wine with His disciples. In fact, at a wedding celebration in Cana, He even made wine so others could enjoy it.
Freedom in the Gospel is a wonderful gift that most Christians understand, but not those hooked on pietism instead of grace.
Some folks are just too stupid to get over their own hang ups. Why don’t you just join that group protesting service member funerals. Geeze. The lack of tolerance is blinding you.
Goldurn Baptists ......
The California wine industry was founded by Catholic monks. I can still smell the oak barrels in the basement of the Christian Brothers winery in Napa Valley.
Its a good thing Jesus was not televised when he turned water into wine at a wedding party. I guess they would have banned him too.
As I recall the Apostle Paul also told Timothy it was OK to drink a little wine to help sooth his stomach. Even God accepted the firstfruits of the vine as a righteous offering.
“Free Will Baptist Family Ministries”
Why don’t Baptists go to night clubs?
Because someone from church might see them dancing.
Drinking wine is no sin——its the abuse of wine or becoming a drunk alcoholic. Food is not sin but grossly overeating becoming a ‘glutton’ is. I’m glad my Lord doesn’t condemn me for drinking a little wine but if one gets a conviction then dont drink. Legalism is rot.
As a Southern Baptist, I could have told you this would have happened.
They are opposed to wine because wine might lead to dancing.
Dang, ya beat me to it!
1871 book: Jesus’ wine at Cana was non-alcoholic
http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=3163
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (BP)—First published in 1871, the book, “Bible Wines,” remains a valuable resource supporting a centuries-old contention that Christ turned barrels of water into non-alcoholic wine at the wedding in Cana.
“Bible Wines,” by William Patton, is distributed by the Temperance League of Kentucky. Copies can be ordered from the organization at (502) 635-0002.
Patton’s book is a godsend to those who believe Christ would not have turned water into fermented wine, said Claude Witt, executive director of the Temperance League of Kentucky who also is a Southern Baptist Convention Christian Life Commission member and president of the American Council on Alcohol Problems, based in St. Louis.
“There are so many biblical verses that clearly emphasize God’s restriction against drinking fermented wine,” Witt said.
“For example, in Numbers, chapter 6, verses 1 through 4, God instructs Moses to take the vow of the Nazirite and separate himself from wine or strong drink, to consume nothing from the grape vine, not drink grape juice, and eat not even the seed or the skins.
“While that was the call to be a priest, a leader of the people, today, with Christ, all of us are priests or ministers. All of us are called to separate ourselves from the world, and especially from one of the world’s greatest temptations — alcohol,” Witt said.
Still, those who drink moderately or occasionally say the Bible does not specifically rule out drinking, only getting drunk — at least for those who are not called to the degree of service as was Moses.
“There is an argument that can be made along those lines,” Witt said. “It is not one that I follow, but the Bible does in many instances sternly warn us not to get drunk. But I believe it is also clearly warning us not to drink at all.”
In the Lord’s Prayer, Christians pray for protection against temptation. Witt questioned why any believers would think God would lead them into such a powerful temptation by allowing them to drink, even in moderation.
“All alcoholics start as moderate drinkers. All those who get drunk start with a first drink,” he said.
In “Bible Wines,” Patton presented an extended argument that Christ created non-alcoholic wine at the wedding feast in Cana.
The Bible’s account of Christ turning water into wine, considered his first miracle, is in John 2:1-11. Patton contended:
“The distinguishing fact is that Christ turned the water into wine. The Greek word is oinos; and it is claimed that therefore the wine was alcoholic and intoxicating. But as oinos is a generic word, and, as such, includes all kinds of wine and all stages of the juice of the grape, and sometimes the cluster and even the vine, it is begging the whole question to assert it was intoxicating.
“As the narrative is silent on this point, the character of the wine can only be determined by the attendant circumstances — by the occasion, the material used, the person making the wine and the moral influence of the miracle.
“The occasion was a wedding convocation. The material was water — the same element which the clouds pour down, which the vine draws up from the earth by its roots, and in its passage to the clusters changes into juice. The operator was Jesus Christ, the same who, in the beginning, fixed that law by which the vine takes up water and converts it into pure, unfermented juice.
“The wine provided by the family was used up, and the mother of Jesus informed him of that fact. He directed that the six water pots be filled with water. This being done, He commanded it be drawn and handed to the master of the feast. He pronounced it wine — good wine.
“The moral influence of the miracle will be determined by the character of the wine. It is pertinent to ask: Is it not derogatory to the character of Christ and the teachings of the Bible to suppose that he exerted his miraculous power to produce (what some say is 126 gallons, others 60 gallons) of intoxicating wine?
“Wine which inspiration has denounced as ‘a mocker,’ ‘as biting as a serpent,’ and ‘stinging like an adder,’ as ‘the poison of dragons,’ ‘the cruel venom of asps,’ and which the Holy Spirit has selected as the emblem of the wrath of Almighty God?
“Is it probable that his son gave that to the guests after they had used the wine provided by the host, and which, it is claimed, was intoxicating?
“... Can it be seriously entertained that Christ should, by his miraculous power, make alcohol? Can it be believed that he, by making alcohol, sanctions the making of it and the giving of it to his creatures, when he, better than all others, knew that it, in the past, had been the cause of the temporal and eternal ruin of myriads, and which, in all the ages to come, would plunge myriads upon myriads into the depths of eternal damnation?”
Patton also quoted another theologian, identified as Professor Donovan, who observed, “All who know of the wines then used well understand the unfermented juice of the grape. The present wines of Jerusalem and Lebanon ... were commonly boiled and sweet, without intoxicating qualities, such as we get in liquors called wines.
“The boiling prevents fermentation,” Donovan stated. “Those were esteemed the best wines, which were the least strong.”
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I belong to a denomination that is teetotalers (the Assemblies of God) and I disagree with their view that any alcohol consumption is sinful. That being said, this organization is sticking by it’s stated beliefs at the cost of ridicule, missing out on a great event, and disappointing it’s members. Sacrificing for your beliefs even though it would be easy to do otherwise is not something I scorn.
What about Churches of Christ? Don’t they frown on this *behavior*, too?
Fools. Self Righteous pharisees. Institutional arrogance.
Wine, and wine culture is infused throughout the bible. They make themselves a laughing stock for accepting the relatively short lived puritan impulses inherited from early American culture.
Puritanical Christianity is a modern anomaly, and not a historical norm, yet is still pervasive in many evangelical circles.
How stupid.
Will they endorse a headchopper group instead? They don’t use wine.
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