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Father’s heartache after police SHOOT DEAD son, 19,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2489533/Father-heartache-police-shoot-dead-son.html ^

Posted on 11/07/2013 1:39:26 AM PST by kelly4c

Full title too long, here's the rest: "when he reported van stolen to stop teenager from buying cigarettes"

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: iowa; lawenforcement
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To: Gaffer

Yeah...paging (Historian) Miss Goodwin.


41 posted on 11/07/2013 5:30:43 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Dave278

“You shoot to terminate the other party.”

I don’t mean to be contentious, but it was never my understanding that the usual police procedure was “shoot to kill”.


42 posted on 11/07/2013 5:35:19 AM PST by jocon307
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To: RKBA Democrat

There are tough decisions to be made with some of these ‘out of control’ kids.

Just this past weekend I had a pet sit job to do. Showed up Saturday evening to get the dog, strange car in the driveway and young kid in the house watching the TV. Kid matched the photo on the fireplace mantel so I figured he was family. BUT...NO ONE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.

Kid took his duffle bag and beat feet out the door with lots of stutters and stammering. Of course I called the dad to let him know the kid was there. Dad acknowledged the kid and ‘reason’ for being there.

I got back the next morning at 6:30am to find 6 cars and a dozens teenagers in the house. My ‘mommy-sense’ said to go back the night before to check on the house, but it wasn’t my kid. And ...what should I have done if I had actually caught them at their ‘party.’ A bunch of high-school kids, unsupervised, in a house that isn’t supposed to be occupied, and the kid doesn’t live there? I had already called the Dad the night before. So I sent a simple text message to the Dad. Son...SLEEPOVER AT YOUR HOUSE and left.

But ...what should have happened? I would have loved to have called the cops and had the dozen or so kids arrested for criminal trespass. A bunch of underage teenagers...where the hell were their parents to begin with...kids out all night long?


43 posted on 11/07/2013 5:50:03 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

So thats a yes?

Everyone is corrupt so whats the big deal, right?


44 posted on 11/07/2013 6:09:05 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: skinkinthegrass
Doris Kearns Goodwin.....the quintessential liar expert of NPR, sycophant media outlets and liars-of-record.

This esteemed lady historian, along with 400 other noted 'historians', signed her name to a NYT full-page testament that “a blow job is not an impeachable offense.”

45 posted on 11/07/2013 6:13:13 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: driftdiver
"Speculation - the cop wanted to kill something and no dogs were available."

Police dogs have not yet been trained to shoot suspects on command.

But I'll bet they're working on that now.

Leni

46 posted on 11/07/2013 6:22:13 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: maddog55

We’re supposed to respect authority because it is acting under legitimate authority, the Constitution, and ultimately, God.

What we’re seeing now is “respect our authority even if we’re acting illegitimately, or we’ll shoot you.”


47 posted on 11/07/2013 6:24:06 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: stormhill
This generation may be no worse than previous ones but cops are less prone to tolerate threats because this is becoming a more dangerous environment; mental patients with guns are sprouting like mushrooms.

It's certainly more dangerous to be a citizen or a dog, but I really don't see a lot of news stories about cops dying in the streets. Sorry, but being a cop isn't a particularly dangerous job. If you want real danger, try being a pizza deliveryman, or a cab driver.

The most dangerous place for a cop to be is standing beside the road collecting taxes for the police state. Not because anyone particularly targets them, but because accidents happen.

48 posted on 11/07/2013 7:08:07 AM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Oh, give it a break. There is plenty of blame to go around here.

So, I’m saying that it’s at least as much Dads fault, kids fault and cops fault. 33% each and 1% someone elses fault.

If the kid hadn’t been an dumbass he’d still be alive.

If dad hadn’t been a dumbass, the kid would still be alive.

And, If the cop hadn’t shot the kid he would still be alive.

Satisfied?


49 posted on 11/07/2013 7:23:36 AM PST by saleman (')
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To: saleman

well at least the cop went home safe


50 posted on 11/07/2013 8:30:35 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: stormhill
it's prudent to respect any authority with a license to kill you whether they deserve that respect or not.

That doesn't call for respect.

It calls for fear.

And contempt.

They were the ones to decide it's us vs them.

In the end, it's only going to be us. 'Them' will be destroyed.

51 posted on 11/07/2013 8:35:43 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Damn ObamaCare, full speed ahead!)
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To: vladimir998

According to the article, the truck was stopped and the young man was unarmed when shot to death.


52 posted on 11/07/2013 8:40:54 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Alaska Wolf

According to the article, the truck was stopped and the young man was unarmed when shot to death.


53 posted on 11/07/2013 8:41:48 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: kelly4c
Understand the new American Rule:

THERE IS NO SITUATION
THAT A COP WILL NOT MAKE WORSE.
NONE. NOT ONE.

54 posted on 11/07/2013 8:44:01 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: stormhill
However, it's prudent to respect any authority with a license to kill you whether they deserve that respect or not. The wise place to fight the tyranny is at the ballot box and the political power levers

Your comments were true a few years ago.

Now, not so much.

55 posted on 11/07/2013 8:44:58 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: jameslalor

He wasn’t shot during the pursuit.

According to the article, the truck was stopped and the young man was unarmed when shot to death.


56 posted on 11/07/2013 8:45:17 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: stormhill
mental patients with guns are sprouting like mushrooms.

The young man was not armed.

According to the article, the truck was stopped after colliding with a tree when he was shot to death.

57 posted on 11/07/2013 8:50:47 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 21twelve
maybe the kid was trying to run him down or something

Try reading the article.

According to the article and other news sources, the truck was stopped after colliding with a tree when he was shot to death. He was not armed.

58 posted on 11/07/2013 8:56:09 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Lazamataz; stormhill
The wise place to fight the tyranny is at the ballot box and the political power levers

Your comments were possibly true a few years ago.

Fact are over the past several decades, government intentionally flooded the U.S. with tens of millions of illegals who have totally compromised and undermined elections at every level...It's created an huge industry of fraud.

Most Americans were probably preoccupied with TV or sports and just failed to notice these country killing events.

59 posted on 11/07/2013 9:06:10 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Lazamataz
Now, not so much.

I'm not inclined to participate in armed insurrection or incite others to. It might be myopic to only seek solutions in redress demands and leadership change but those are the options.
What are you suggesting?

60 posted on 11/07/2013 9:25:30 AM PST by stormhill (Guns Save Lives!)
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