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Science has lost its way, at a big cost to humanity
LAT ^ | Oct 27, 2013 | By Michael Hiltzik

Posted on 10/27/2013 5:57:00 PM PDT by Islander7

n today's world, brimful as it is with opinion and falsehoods masquerading as facts, you'd think the one place you can depend on for verifiable facts is science.

You'd be wrong. Many billions of dollars' worth of wrong.

A few years ago, scientists at the Thousand Oaks biotech firm Amgen set out to double-check the results of 53 landmark papers in their fields of cancer research and blood biology.

The idea was to make sure that research on which Amgen was spending millions of development dollars still held up. They figured that a few of the studies would fail the test — that the original results couldn't be reproduced because the findings were especially novel or described fresh therapeutic approaches.

But what they found was startling: Of the 53 landmark papers, only six could be proved valid.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: doomage; globalwarming; helixmakemineadouble; junkscience; science
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But, if we are taxed back to the stone age, we can save the planet from global warming!!
1 posted on 10/27/2013 5:57:00 PM PDT by Islander7
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To: Islander7; neverdem

Ping list worthy, neverdem?


2 posted on 10/27/2013 5:59:25 PM PDT by bajabaja (Too ugly to be scanned at the airports.)
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To: Islander7

Way too many junk science frauds and not enough real scientists.


3 posted on 10/27/2013 5:59:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare should have been tested on politicians before being released to the public!)
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To: Islander7

And I wonder how many of the failed studies authors were awarded Nobel prizes?


4 posted on 10/27/2013 5:59:46 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (When His Arrogance talks out of his a$$, Harry Reid's lips move.)
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To: Islander7
I think we do well in technology -- build a product that works and it will sell, and you can make money.
We don't really do that well with science -- say what people want to hear, get a grant, and you can make money.

Technology advances.
Science ... a little less so.

5 posted on 10/27/2013 6:01:04 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: Islander7

Paul had it right: “...avoid profane and vain babblings and the oppositions of science falsely so called....” I Timothy 6:20


6 posted on 10/27/2013 6:01:11 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Islander7

Its called keeping the grant money flowing.


7 posted on 10/27/2013 6:07:00 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: beethovenfan
Liars come in all flavors christian muslim, or other.

There is a lot of fraud in science and in the pursuit of grants. I work part time in bio research labs and blood and blood products are our specialty. Even when you have a great new product getting it to market without the backing of the big pharm companies is almost impossible.

Securing more dollars and additional grants has become a cottage industry and most of it is based on pure fraud. Scientists are almost as good of liars as politicians and lawyers.

8 posted on 10/27/2013 6:13:23 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: FlingWingFlyer

You mean the climatards?


9 posted on 10/27/2013 6:18:54 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Islander7
This was a 2010 paper by then-NASA biochemist Felisa Wolfe-Simon and colleagues claiming that they had found bacteria growing in Mono Lake that were uniquely able to subsist on arsenic and even used arsenic to build the backbone of their DNA.

I think I posted a thread here about it, way back. If anyone cares to find it, the title was, "Bug eats iron, loves acid, lives in California."

It would humor me to no end if someone found it . . . I looked and the only links I could find are dead.

10 posted on 10/27/2013 6:25:23 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Islander7

Huh. So it’s important to be truthful and honest. Lives could be at stake. Let’s ask our former employee, William Jefferson Clinton, what he thinks about being honest. We didn’t fire an employee for lying under oath. What message did that send? There are two countries within our borders. There is The United States of America. There is also Democratland. We can’t have both.


11 posted on 10/27/2013 6:29:21 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: 1rudeboy

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/bug-eats-iron-loves-acid-lives-in-california-1.237137


12 posted on 10/27/2013 6:49:18 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Thanks. But I’m still looking for my FR thread, that appears to have vanished into the ether.


13 posted on 10/27/2013 6:50:53 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Okay, my bad. I’ll look for it.


14 posted on 10/27/2013 6:51:48 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: headstamp 2

Culture of Celebrity..
It’s an Obama kind of World.


15 posted on 10/27/2013 6:54:30 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: Islander7

bttt


16 posted on 10/27/2013 6:56:35 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Islander7

The production of scientific knowledge is no different than many other activities, like manufacturing a part for an airplane. In manufacturing, the cost of being forced to do something over is much greater than doing it right the first time, or catching problems early. The scientific method is self correcting, but only “eventually.” We could do a lot better with process control and do things like require independent reproducibility before publication.


17 posted on 10/27/2013 7:00:22 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

Perhaps Vince but human beings are being irreparably harmed by this insanity…
Lyme’s disease …anyone?


18 posted on 10/27/2013 7:02:44 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: Islander7

Bump


19 posted on 10/27/2013 7:03:48 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Islander7

‘Whoever funds the research gets the results they want’-Originalbuckeye


20 posted on 10/27/2013 7:04:11 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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