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Okay - you were warned all during 2011-12 that Santorum was a pro life liberal....an establishment tool.....a very shaky record on all non social issues....and a self serving political social climber. There were clearly those of us on FR who knew and warned, and those who thought we were crazy. Mea culpas accepted, but not expected.
1 posted on 10/27/2013 10:03:01 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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I don’t get the “Cruz is hurting Republican victories” talk.

I understand that he’s pushed away a few Republicans. But the problem is Republicans who actually want to change things haven’t had a real victory in a long time. The closest was in 2000 when there was some tax reform enacted. But that was offset by Medicare Part D and other increases in entitlement spending. They also go the stem cell lines based on aborted fetuses to be defunded of federal funds. After that, what did Republicans who want to stop reckless spending win on? What did pro-life Republicans win on?

Republicans are tired of sending reps to DC who as soon as they get there do their best to maintain the status quo. Democrats are fine with their reps lying to them and working to enrich themselves at their expense, Republicans shouldn’t be.


74 posted on 10/27/2013 11:20:26 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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Santorum self-destructed in the debates, before he started acting as a spoiled brat onstage.


75 posted on 10/27/2013 11:22:55 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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Santorum is a snake. Joe Pyne would tell him to go gargle with razor blades. But I would NEVER say that. God bless Joe Pyne.


77 posted on 10/27/2013 11:31:25 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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Au contraire, Mr. Santorum; Senator Cruz's stand against Obamacare did two things. The first was to set up a big I-told-you-so ahead of the big Healthcare.gov website roll out MASSIVE FAILURE. The second thing he accomplished, and this is probably much more important, was to flush people like you from cover.

Make no mistake: We took note of who did and who didn't support Senators Cruz, Paul, and Lee.

78 posted on 10/27/2013 11:38:58 AM PDT by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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Hope we never have to settle for him again.
Cruz has exposed where the battle lines are.

Pray America is Waking Up


80 posted on 10/27/2013 11:46:48 AM PDT by bray (Coming Jan 2014: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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Assuming this to be true for the sake of argument - it doesn’t make sense to bring it up again to make it the topic of discussion - it’s over, for better or worse...don’t put it back in the news over what is currently happening at this time.


81 posted on 10/27/2013 11:47:37 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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Santorum, who was unable to get re-elected to the Senate in his home state, criticizes Cruz who beat out all the big time $$$ establishment good old boys in TX big time. Texans love Cruz.


82 posted on 10/27/2013 11:51:34 AM PDT by Hattie
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Ping for later


85 posted on 10/27/2013 11:59:12 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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Rick Santorum is just one more establishment puke spewing the NWO mantra trying to convince the American people that the treasonous crimes we all see going on in this government is not what we are actually seeing while simultaneously telling us that the government takeover thus eliminating our liberty and freedom is good because it is the politically correct thing to do and it good for our children's future. No more need to wonder why the schools in the US won't teach the real history of America.
87 posted on 10/27/2013 12:09:22 PM PDT by drypowder
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Hey Rick!

Are you upset by Ted’s ability to consistently deliver a clear message on any given subject?

Are you jealous?

Rick, keep fighting the Pro-Life fight, and leave the rest of the hard work to Conservative Leaders!


89 posted on 10/27/2013 12:23:42 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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Santorum realizes that, with Cruz now the Conservative leader, his chances of becoming President became slim and none...and before Santorium’s ObamaCare supporting bashing of Cruz


90 posted on 10/27/2013 12:39:15 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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I am an old-style Independent Baptist fundamentalist, a dying breed. Lester Roloff and John Rice are two of my heroes. But I never, never fell for Santorum, Huckabee, or any of their ilk. It seems to me that the evanjelly-cals are more prone to falling for these "social justice" type "conservatives". Since there's less chance of my type of fundamentalist ever having a snowball's chance in hell of coming close to high political office (actually, my type would never run), I use my discernment (thank you Holy Spirit for that very important gift) to avoid being fooled by "conservatives" who sound like a garden-variety redistributionist leftist on social issues, or show their "compassionate conservatism" by lettng loose convicted murderers so they can go right out and murder again.

It's not easy to find a conservative who's not afraid to sound tough on law and order, national security, and stealing other people's money to give to freeloaders, who also has compassion for the right people-the unborn, and innocent law-abiding people who have the right and obligation to defend themselves and their families with the use of firearms. That's one thing which made Reagan so special. That stinking McCain is a "maverick" alright, he bucks the conservatives in his own party while kissing the rears of his "friends across the aisle". If that's a "maverick" , it's the easiest job going-the MSM will adore you.

I think that perhaps our long-gone fundamentalist leaders had it right-vote, but don't put faith in/get caught up in political movements. Jerry Falwell proved them right. His "Moral Majority" had a short-lived, limited impact, while being in that milieu moved him and Liberty University slightly leftwards, towards the evanjelly-cal camp. He learned that more you feed compromise, the bigger its appetite grows.


92 posted on 10/27/2013 12:54:22 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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Okay - you were warned all during 2011-12 that Santorum was a pro life liberal....an establishment tool...

I posted Santorum's dismal record here countless times during the 2012 primary. For my part, I never trusted him as far as I could throw him. His condemnation of Ted Cruz only reinforces my gut instincts about the man.

93 posted on 10/27/2013 12:56:49 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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Sorry to read this, as I have been a long time Santorum supporter....


96 posted on 10/27/2013 1:19:59 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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I guess Ricky is not in favor of 1 yr delay in the individual mandate, just like businesses have, that even Democrats are calling for now.

Cruz was right!

97 posted on 10/27/2013 1:27:21 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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Another RINO on my fecal list.


100 posted on 10/27/2013 1:56:13 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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And what has Santorum ever said or done that increases the chances of true conservatives being heard in the GOP. The guy is a nut that didn’t have/doesn’t have a kernel.


102 posted on 10/27/2013 2:34:38 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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This is a good a day as any to finally remove that Santorum sticker from my car.


103 posted on 10/27/2013 2:36:43 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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Mr. Santorum doesn't surprise me as much as he disappoints me. I would have thought Rick S. would stand solidly beside Senator Cruz for his integrity if for nothing else. Senator Cruz was elected to obey and protect our Constitution...and that Rick Santorum, is exactly what he was doing. Does anyone suppose Rick was pandering just a little? Whatever, he showed the same weakness, not just Conservative Americans are sick and tired of!!!
111 posted on 10/27/2013 4:00:04 PM PDT by yoe ( Defund Obamacare now — or risk voter backlash in 2014)
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Many are aware that Santorum supported Specter in 2004.

Not many are aware that Santorum was truly dedicated to Arlen Specter and was supporting him for the 2010 election also, until Specter finally switched parties and actually became a democrat.


116 posted on 10/27/2013 6:15:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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