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Americans Plan To Pay Obamacare Fine (Husseincare's 'affordable' part)
Fox News ^ | 10/19/13

Posted on 10/19/2013 2:38:26 PM PDT by Libloather

Selling the American people on ObamaCare was always going to be a big challenge. That's why it was passed all but in the middle of the night. Now, with the number of people who say they will opt out of ObamaCare and pay the fine instead growing - the selling of ObamaCare is only going to become more difficult, not less.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: affordable; fine; husseincare; obamacare
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To: MattinNJ

You mean, out of your refund? Not if you pay taxes.
As a postscript to my message above, btw, all this correspondence is, what some writer labeled, & not too long ago, “pre-revolutionary.”


21 posted on 10/19/2013 3:35:25 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: MattinNJ

Contact payroll and tell them you want to change your W-4 so you have less automatically taken out of your paycheck.
So that you will owe income taxes.
I seem to remember doing that years ago—filling out the W-4 to make it so that I got a refund, back in my wage-slave days.


22 posted on 10/19/2013 3:40:17 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Very true.


23 posted on 10/19/2013 3:40:32 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: tumblindice

PPS Hi NSA!


24 posted on 10/19/2013 3:41:22 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Libloather

It looks like 0bama intends for JP Morgan Chase to pay for it, what with the fines for doing something the government told them to do—or else—in the 1st place.

“Give those poor folks CRA loans or we’ll...”
“What! You gave poor folks CRA loans? You, you....”


25 posted on 10/19/2013 3:43:07 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Libloather

I wonder what Zero is going to do about the millions that work under the table and pay no payroll taxes.


26 posted on 10/19/2013 3:43:10 PM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: Libloather
It is called shake-down or extortion.
27 posted on 10/19/2013 3:45:38 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: RikaStrom

Can’t we just not participate? Just don’t sign up; if we get sick we go to Emer Room. They have to treat us. This is America and we don’t turn away those in need. PERIOD


28 posted on 10/19/2013 3:49:49 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Fzob

Like his “undocumented immigrant” buddies?
This is another reason he’s anxious to get them on the tax rolls.
He knows they’re breaking the law here, as well, and will continue to under Obamacare. They have fatter paychecks than Americans to send home to Mehseko.
Ask Americans to choose between patriotism and their pocketbooks ... and what makes him think Mexicans will start complying with the law? Becoming citizens?
This is the same fallacy that led to the sub-prime housing failure: “Making un-credit worthy people homeowners will make them more credit worthy people.”


29 posted on 10/19/2013 3:50:31 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: mom.mom

Here in Upstate New York, Excellus just cut out of a Medicaid & family program. 200,000 people are being dumped in NYS by them....most in Monroe County....a Dem stronghold aka a welfare city.


30 posted on 10/19/2013 4:17:12 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Libloather

I’m not buying 0bamaCare and I won’t pay the fine either.


31 posted on 10/19/2013 4:32:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Libloather
Americans Plan To Pay Obamacare Fine (Husseincare's 'affordable' part)

This assertion keeps popping up continuously the last several weeks.
Am I the only one who either understood (or misunderstood) the facts?

The $95 penalty, as I understand it, is just the first year penalty. From there, it escalates each year until it can be literally thousands$. Of course, that only applies to people with non-government jobs who pay net taxes.

The welfare component, people without a job (voluntarily or otherwise) and without assets, (the Medicaid and SSDI welfare population) will get total subsidies, so no effect on them now or ever...

Am I wrong?

32 posted on 10/19/2013 4:37:02 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: SkyDancer

Ok, but where do they get the money if you aren’t paying an income tax anyway? This has never been clear. They can impose fines on your REFUND, but I don’t see where they can get the money from you if you don’t have it.


33 posted on 10/19/2013 4:37:14 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: MattinNJ
They just take it out of your tax return.

Adjust your withholding and there won't be any money due in a "refund." No sense giving the government an interest-free loan anyway.

34 posted on 10/19/2013 4:48:59 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Social Security on steroids.

NO!

Please don't buy into the fraud!

Social security was healthy.
And then they attached TWO 100-pound leeches on the 50-pound Social Security fund.

Medicaid and SSDI...

Try.
Just try to separate the Medicaid and SS permanent fraudulent lifetime disability from the user-funded real Social Security payments and Medicare.

It's all referred to as "Social Security" now. And you've meekly accepted and applied and perpetuated the gross lie.
Call it what it is. Welfare hidden in a legitimate program. If it were consistently listed separately, I and many other net-taxpayers would be happy.

35 posted on 10/19/2013 4:51:21 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Sacajaweau
In other words...you’re being suckered in....and then try to get out...you can’t....just like SS or Medicare.

LOL!

HotelCaliforniaCare?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

36 posted on 10/19/2013 4:56:36 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Libloather

So, if you pay the fine, you get nothing but the gratitude of the Democrats? Next, they’re going to come up with the Bigfoot Tax.

“Give us a hundred bucks, and Bigfoot won’t eat you.”

It’s a protection racket run by the government.


37 posted on 10/19/2013 5:07:41 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: TigersEye
I’m not buying 0bamaCare and I won’t pay the fine either.

Dude!
If you have no job, no savings or assets, you're home free!

Woooo Hoooo!

...Funny, everybody has figured that out except the Smartest Marxists in the world!...

38 posted on 10/19/2013 5:18:06 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: LS

You forget that the IRS >can< get blood from a stone - and if you don’t believe in resurrection just die owing the IRS ....


39 posted on 10/19/2013 5:28:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: publius911

The text of the law only allows the IRS to withold the “tax” from a refund. There are many ways taxes are paid that don’t involve W-4s and withholdings.


40 posted on 10/19/2013 5:42:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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