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Could the Different States Become Separate Countries in the Future?

Posted on 10/17/2013 8:45:51 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre

Governor Rick Perry was once alleged to have stated that Texas could secede in the future. But he now states he opposes succession:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/onpolitics/2012/11/13/rick-perry-texas-secession-petition/1702359/

If the different states were to become different nations, the federal government would cease to exist. That means that the federal debt would be reduced to Zero. But the price that Americans would pay, would be the loss of super power status. Would Americans be better off or worse off, if the states were to become different countries?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: cwii; cwiiping; federalgovernment; statesrights; usa
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To: donmeaker

it doesn’t matter what you say , democrat

we will do what we want and that is secede. we have the right to freedom and independence . the constitution doesn’t deny us that right either.

you can be a toyko rose all you want . just go worship your government and your Obama


161 posted on 10/17/2013 12:58:12 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media

So you want what you want. Sounds like the EBT crowd to me.


162 posted on 10/17/2013 12:59:44 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: donmeaker

in short

why do you trust government so much, democrat? you haven’t answered that.

and give me liberty or give me death


163 posted on 10/17/2013 1:00:29 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Alas Babylon!

“How about we try to educate people to our cause?”

There is no better education than reality, and reality is when they get to live in their own ideological cesspool. THAT is the moment of educational opportunity.


164 posted on 10/17/2013 1:00:30 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: donmeaker
Yes i have actual thoughts that you nor the government can't control.

I want freedom and to be left alone by the government. and for the gov to leave businesses and capitalism alone. is that ok with you?

165 posted on 10/17/2013 1:03:33 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: donmeaker

Legal secession....

Why the hell are we supposed to play by the rules when the evil opponents do not! Insanity! You will NEVER win that way. NEVER!!


166 posted on 10/17/2013 1:10:44 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: DoodleDawg

DOWH!!!


167 posted on 10/17/2013 1:13:13 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: CodeToad

Well, Essex, Bergen, Passaic, Union, Middlesex, Camden, Hudson and Mercer Counties - Counties with large urban populations. NJ has 21 Counties. But the liberals from the New York Metro Area and Philly area are constantly emigrating out to the suburbs and rural areas and changing them. The distance from New York to the opposite side of the state is about 50 miles or so. Probably the same for Philly.

Native New Jerseyians who are not libs - people like me - are getting squeezed out.


168 posted on 10/17/2013 1:40:23 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: Democrat_media

You sound more like “Give me anarchy or give me death!” If you pursue splitting up the country like the last time it was tried I think we all know which way it’ll turn out.

Donmeaker is right - you would be better off trying to win elections than stir insurrection.


169 posted on 10/17/2013 1:41:33 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
If the South was to secede again, would the federal government have the stomach to wage war like it did between 1861 to 1865?

IMHO there are some in the Admin that would love to wage CWII and destroy all of their enemies once and for all. Welcome USSA
170 posted on 10/17/2013 1:43:41 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: central_va

Excellent point. I just don’t see nukes being part of the equation and I am very familiar with nuclear warfare.


171 posted on 10/17/2013 1:46:18 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: ZULU

“Native New Jerseyians who are not libs - people like me - are getting squeezed out.”

People pick on NJ but your point is well made. NJ is a great State with many outstanding areas of rural concern and beauty. NJ residents weren’t liberals, the New Yawkers settling in there have been. I’ve got close friend in NJ and they are great conservative Americans in the same situation you describe.


172 posted on 10/17/2013 1:50:30 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: yawningotter; windcliff; stylecouncilor

“You all can go to Hell. I’m going to Texas.” —David Crockett


173 posted on 10/17/2013 1:57:08 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

I won’t go to Texas.


174 posted on 10/17/2013 2:02:30 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: CodeToad

Someone commented on the thread about the general over the nuclear arsenal being dismissed by Barry -

he was dismissed because he couldn’t be trusted to launch on Texas if Barry ordered it.


175 posted on 10/17/2013 2:04:16 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Democrat_media

How does it feel to want?


176 posted on 10/17/2013 2:12:52 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: donmeaker
It wasn't a pretended confederacy and most of those who fought for the South had never owned a slave in their lives.
177 posted on 10/17/2013 2:13:16 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: windcliff

I’ve been to Texas. I have an ex-wife there.


178 posted on 10/17/2013 2:13:51 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: donmeaker

and you think there won’t be insurgent groups to take over bases after the true Patriots abandon their posts and go home to help their families?


179 posted on 10/17/2013 2:14:33 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: donmeaker

All of them?


180 posted on 10/17/2013 2:14:38 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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