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Is the United States Splitting Apart?
Townhall ^ | 09/25/2013 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 09/25/2013 10:24:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In September, the Siskiyou County Board of Supervisors voted to secede from the State of California. "Many proposed laws are unconstitutional and deny us our God-given rights," said one attendee at the council meeting. "We need our own state so we can make laws that fit our way of life." A few weeks later, the Modoc County Board of Supervisors voted to join Siskiyou in the new state of Jefferson, voting 4-0 to leave California.

The board votes didn't mean much legally -- the federal government and state government of California would have to recognize the new proposed state of Jefferson. But symbolically, the vote recognizes the growing incompatibility of leftist governance and conservative populations, and vice versa. California is the United States writ small: a state increasingly dominated by Democrats at the top levels, but remaining largely red locally; a state with a massive gap between the major metropolitan areas, which trend deeply blue, and the more rural conservative areas. Increasingly, the two populations simply can't work together.

And thus conservatives are leaving. More and more business have taken off for Texas, New Mexico, Nevada. Three companies a week left California for Texas from 1990 to 2010 (about one company left Texas for California each week during that same period). California's population growth has been driven largely by illegal immigration. The breadbasket of California in the San Joaquin Valley has been devastated by a combination of federal and state environmental regulations.

Conservatives in California still have someplace to go. But what happens when states begin falling, one after another, for the Democratic playbook? As California drives itself deeper into the mire, even leftists are unsatisfied with its style of living -- and they're leaving. Between 1995 and 2000, California lost nearly 67,000 residents to Texas, and lost 94,000 to Arizona; California also lost 55,000 to Colorado. Those emigrants probably voted heavily Democrat in California. Now they've moved to new states, where they will undoubtedly copycat the same destructive practices that drove them from their original homes.

After all, that's what happened to California. California used to be a reliably middle-of-the-road state -- it was home to both Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. But from 1955 to 1960, California absorbed large liberal populations from states like New York (nearly 99,000) and Illinois (100,000). That trend continued and was exacerbated by immigration across the southern border. The Republican Party didn't help itself any with Proposition 187 under the governorship of Pete Wilson, which targeted public services for illegal immigrants. Now California is perhaps the bluest state in the nation, even though on the local level, it remains largely red.

So what happens when people run out of places to run? What happens when all of America's major metro areas go blue and those populations control states with conservative rural populations? What happens when those conservatives get sick of paying for the excesses of leftist governance?

Exactly what's happening in California? And while California's secessionists may seem like a frivolity now, they may be an early warning of what's to come if Americans cannot reunite around common political principles.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: calexit; california; cwii; newcalifornia; secession; stateofjefferson; timdraper; unitedstates
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To: SeekAndFind

Progressive, like cancer.


21 posted on 09/25/2013 10:33:43 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: SeekAndFind

United We Stand
Divided We Fall


22 posted on 09/25/2013 10:34:08 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: VanDeKoik

A split won’t be permitted. Can’t be permitted, given the reliance of Blue on Red.

The only thing that I can think of that can put things back on track would be a nationwide strike by food producers and related transportation workers. Let the cities look starvation in the face.

Unfortunately, such a strike would be brutally put down by the government ...


23 posted on 09/25/2013 10:34:16 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: skeeter
BTW I don't get this take on 187. The measure passed with 2/3 of the vote & was thrown out by a single corrupt judge.

God help me, but I hope that judge spends eternity experiencing the horrible effects of every illegal alien who came to California because of her...from the point of view of the victims.

24 posted on 09/25/2013 10:34:32 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Modoc County Board of Supervisors voted to join Siskiyou in the new state of Jefferson, voting 4-0 to leave California.

Movin' on Up [Theme from The Jeffersons] Well we're movin on up, To the east side. To a deluxe apartment in the sky. Movin on up, To the east side. We finally got a piece of the pie. Fish don't fry in the kitchen; Beans don't burn on the grill. Took a whole lotta tryin', Just to get up that hill. Now we're up in the big leagues, Gettin' our turn at bat. As long as we live, it's you and me baby, There ain't nothin wrong with that. Well we're movin on up, To the east side. To a deluxe apartment in the sky. Movin on up, To the east side. We finally got a piece of the pie.................

25 posted on 09/25/2013 10:35:06 AM PDT by Red Badger (It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong. .....Voltaire)
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To: skeeter

CA today is just as blue as MA, VT, NY, or RI.

Doesn’t matter if you’re a RINO or a conservative Republican.

If you gotta an “R” after your name you are toastada.


26 posted on 09/25/2013 10:35:35 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Heavyrunner
it’s almost like the feds have been planning for a rebellion a lot longer than anyone else may have.

If they were in any way students of history, they'd be fools not to.


27 posted on 09/25/2013 10:36:11 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Feds would never agree — unless of course they see an opportuniry to make Puerto Rico a state or D.C. or some other liberal home a state just to balance out.


28 posted on 09/25/2013 10:37:06 AM PDT by bunster
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To: SeekAndFind
"..... even leftists are unsatisfied with its style of living -- and they're leaving...... "

..... Typical Liberal behavior ..... Crap all over your house, start complaining about all of the mess, then leave in a big snitty huff .... then procede to look for another house to go crap in. THEN ..... repeat cycle.

29 posted on 09/25/2013 10:37:21 AM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: SeekAndFind
even leftists are unsatisfied with its style of living -- and they're leaving...

Imagine the husk of a dead cell bursting forth with freshly replicated virii.
30 posted on 09/25/2013 10:37:59 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SeekAndFind

75 to 90% of California soil, is lived on by Conservatives.


31 posted on 09/25/2013 10:38:44 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: skeeter; SeekAndFind

>> “ I don’t get this take on 187. The measure passed with 2/3 of the vote & was thrown out by a single corrupt judge.” <<

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Absolutely!

The people are strongly against any illegal getting anything, but the marshmalo heads keep telling us that we want them to have full benefits.

The party didn’t help itself by not defending 187; that was the big mistake.


32 posted on 09/25/2013 10:39:38 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think I have heard the same about New York.


33 posted on 09/25/2013 10:39:41 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: SeekAndFind

Mark Levin calls them Locusts... The ones that infect an area with liberalism and then leave when they have destroyed it...only to move on and repeat the cycle...


34 posted on 09/25/2013 10:40:06 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: SeekAndFind
Good.
It's probably time to split it up.

Give the Socialists half and us Americans half.
They have to promise not to beg the Conservative states for help when they turn into a third world country over the next three years though.

We will keep the Constitution and they can adapt whatever the Soviets used as guidelines, or find out what Kim Dung is doing in North Korea to make Communism such a blinding success. Maybe they'll use Mien Kampf as their law, they believe many of the ideals set forth in that book. Just substitute the word “Jewish” for “Conservative” or “Christian” whenever it appears in the book.

35 posted on 09/25/2013 10:42:10 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: RinaseaofDs

you know, maybe the federales will continue to play favorites and deny new roads or road fixing or mail delivery or fast internet connections to people living in the “wrong” areas.....wouldn’t that be a Godsend....and I am serious.....we would have our own country then....


36 posted on 09/25/2013 10:42:28 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Buckeye McFrog

” Parts of states cannot secede unless both the state and Feds agree to it”

For now, that’s right, but let the Leftists thwart those efforts and all bets are off.

I would also point out that now that the RATS have $h!t in their own nests in California, they are “migrating” back eastward (and the article’s commenting on the fact that California’s “demise” as a “middle of the road” state came with the “migration” of these same people from the Northeastern States and Illinois) to states they “passed over” on their way here. And the underlying premise that these “Leftists” can’t seem to figure out why everything turns to $h!t wherever they light ( not unlike the illegals from Mexico). It’s as though they are undaunted in their efforts to make socialism/Marxism work despite the generally accepted notion that at the end of the day, it doesn’t. California is a RED State based on land occupied by decent people, but the masses of morons in the big cities overwhelms us. Just like every other state to one degree or another. Utah is as conservative a state as exists, but not it’s only big city, Salt Lake. Ditto for Nevada, save for Clark County.


37 posted on 09/25/2013 10:42:37 AM PDT by vette6387 (o)
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To: crusty old prospector

It’s probably true.

We need to reverse the trend to urbanize our populace.


38 posted on 09/25/2013 10:42:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Southern Oregon will join them. We've had enough of Portland!


39 posted on 09/25/2013 10:42:51 AM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

It also occurred prior to the War of the Rebellion, when Maine was admitted as a state (previously part of Mass.) with Missouri as part of the Missouri Compromise.


40 posted on 09/25/2013 10:43:43 AM PDT by donmeaker (Youth is wasted on the young.)
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