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Poll: Republican voters have embraced libertarian values
United Liberty ^ | 9/12/13 | Jason Pye

Posted on 09/19/2013 9:45:28 AM PDT by shego

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To: Gene Eric

I think that it is the Libertarian that needs to explain how he will use the government to force his libertine views on conservatives. What modern Libertarians seem to demand from conservatives is approval, not tolerance. Modern Libertarians seem to believe in liberty for me, but not for thee. They are perfectly willing to use government to enforce regulation of thought and speech.

Conservatives may tolerate homosexual marriage, but the government has no right to require that they endorse it.


181 posted on 09/19/2013 10:10:06 PM PDT by Eva
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To: jpsb

Glad you’ve been watching. I apologize again for the goat example, and hope you’ve had some fun.


182 posted on 09/19/2013 10:10:42 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: GeronL

I’m sure 98% of the Western population shares that concern.


183 posted on 09/19/2013 10:13:18 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

It is clear that libertarianism is about supporting conservative economics while diminishing and eliminating the social conservatism.


184 posted on 09/19/2013 10:13:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: ansel12

They are not the same. There is room for pro life people in the 2013 statement, especially compared to the Democrat party’s position on the issue.

There was no pro life room in the previous statement.

What is your opinion on price supports for dairy products and on farm sales of raw milk?


185 posted on 09/19/2013 10:17:55 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: ansel12; Gene Eric
"I have a libertarian Streak in me....... libertarian leaning ..... a lot of that has to do with a philosophy libertarian embraces too".

Gene Eric hit it out of the park with his post 173, have another look at that post it was exceptional insight into this discussion.

186 posted on 09/19/2013 10:19:58 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: noprogs

no problem, been a fun and enlightening thread.


187 posted on 09/19/2013 10:20:30 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Eva

You’re implicitly distinguishing a libertine from a libertarian.

I agree, the govt should not be forcing the citizens to support homosexual behavior — but unfortunately, the pendulum of statism has swung to the Left... if you will.


188 posted on 09/19/2013 10:20:46 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: noprogs

How do you find a pro-life position is this unequivocal support for unlimited, unrestrained, full term abortion?

“we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.’


189 posted on 09/19/2013 10:21:26 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: jpsb

LOL

I don’t know about the light, but there’s been some heat and smoke!

BTW, did you read my home page? I’m going to read yours.


190 posted on 09/19/2013 10:23:06 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: Eva

Conservative should not tolerate homosexual marriage since it is a direct attack on Christian beliefs and Christian churches.


191 posted on 09/19/2013 10:23:54 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: noprogs
did you read my home page

Yes I did, mine you can read much quicker.

192 posted on 09/19/2013 10:25:08 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Gene Eric; Eva

The govt has to make decisions, laws and rules regarding homosexuality, for the military, for federal employment, for immigration, for many things.

This childish fantasy of la-la land is silly.


193 posted on 09/19/2013 10:27:14 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: ansel12

As far as the Libertarian Party goes, yes.


194 posted on 09/19/2013 10:28:01 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: jpsb

I could say the same thing, and would if I were a politician and asked directly.

freerepublic is a place where conservatives can speak openly and defend God and conservatism.


195 posted on 09/19/2013 10:29:46 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: ansel12

But the govt made law permitting what you’re saying it normally wouldn’t permit. Now that’s silly.


196 posted on 09/19/2013 10:31:45 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric
As far as the Libertarian Party goes, yes.

Most libertarians period.

Libertarianism has it's agenda and political goals, regardless of your personal areas of disagreement with the larger philosophy and political cause.

I'm not interested in your personal deviations from libertarian purity, my interest is in libertarianism's effective role in the war against conservatism.

197 posted on 09/19/2013 10:33:57 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: ansel12

Like I said I am a libertarian leaning conservative and I probably agree with you on most social issues. But the one social issue that is a high priority with me is stopping the homosexual agenda anti Christian agenda. I see that has being very dangerous to this nations moral fiber.


198 posted on 09/19/2013 10:35:06 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: jpsb

There’s a political void concerning liberty. Most political arguments in one way or another depend on govt enforcement. To suggest repeal, is to suggest anarchy which is unfortunate.


199 posted on 09/19/2013 10:35:52 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ansel12

They left it up to each person versus demanding adherence to pro choice orthodoxy.

It’s not up to my ideal standards either, and they did not say that a woman had to check with noprogs or ansel12 before getting an abortion, but there is a difference.

Let me offer a what if......suppose the Libertarian Party changed and became pro life.......lets say no abortions after 12 weeks for example, and became border hawks, do you think in exchange the GOP would support disbanding the DEA / FDA and BATFE in order to build a new coalition to win some elections and shrink the government?


200 posted on 09/19/2013 10:36:42 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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