Posted on 09/19/2013 9:45:28 AM PDT by shego
The libertarian philosophy is taking the Republican Party by storm, according to a poll conducted by FreedomWorks, a DC-based grassroots service center with over 6 million members.
With Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) and many other liberty-minded politicians gaining influence, libertarianism has generated new interest inside the Republican Party, much to the chagrin of the GOP's political establishment....
"FreedomWorks' poll shows that 42 percent of Republicans have a favorable view of the word ‘libertarian,' and only 10 percent don't know the word, compared to 27 percent who don't know nationally," they added.
And the term "libertarian" may still turn off some Republican voters, the basic message of the philosophy earns significant favor. The poll found that 68% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents agree with the statement that "individuals should be free to do as they like as long as they don't hurt others, and that the government should keep out of people's day-to-day lives."
What's more, an eye-popping 78% of Republicans consider themselves to be "fiscally conservative, but socially moderate," which is a significant finding given the debate in the GOP on social issues.
Looking outside of just the Republican box, the poll found that 66% of respondents consider themselves to fiscally conservative and socially moderate.
These numbers show that the libertarian message is appealing, not only to Republican voters, but also to all Americans; further advancing the case for conservative-libertarian fusionism as a way to promote free market ideals, limited government, and personal liberty....
(Excerpt) Read more at unitedliberty.org ...
interesting, thank you and I agree with your posts.
who said they are the property of parents, Govt, is that not the Govt you want nothing to do with?
Why can’t a child leave home at aged 12, have sex and drugs off old dirty men, can’t have it both ways, you either want Govt or no Govt.
Slaves were property too but that changed under no Govt then should they be free too?
I’ll try again, you posted, “”That arrogation by government is how the whole mess got started. “”
What do you mean by that?
When do you think that the government or some other controlling common authority (including an all powerful church or state church) first got involved in marriage?
Okay. Where did I say I was in favor of no government? Never have and never will.
The two main purposes of government are; control/protect the borders, and to guard property rights. As it stands now, our borders are totally open and your property is at its greatest peril when dealing with the government due to the government being involved in every other freaking thing in everyone’s lives!
Children (admittedly today many folk think they belong to the State, too) belong to their parents, as they are responsible for their well being and consequences of their actions until adulthood.
I don’t want it both ways. There is the concept of LIMITED government, the concept on which this country was founded and why it flourished. As government has grown in its scope of action, our nation has foundered! “Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around the equal rights of others.” Thomas Jefferson wrote that.
Since sex in general seems to be something you wish for the government to control, let’s suppose your neighbor is copulating with one of his goats in plain view of your living room window. You could just look away. You could yell across the street “Hey Buddy! Take that crap around back!”. You could even come to an agreement to purchase the goat, thus rescuing the poor animal from your neighbor. But in your mind, you wish for badged bullies to come bludgeon your neighbor, confiscate his goat and toss his warped carcass into the hoosegow. I would agree to that if your neighbor were to copulate with one of your, or any other person’s goats without permission of the owner of said goat(s).
The type of sex that evidently bothers you the most is older men with barely pubescent females. In your previous post , the victim was 14 and in this one the victim is 12. I’m sure we will hit the single digits in the next, but one thing to keep in mind is the only societies where such actions are widely condoned is in Sharia ruled dung heaps where the Church and State are truly ONE, and the State enforces the laws of morality while property rights are quite murky.
Now tell me how moral it is for the government to hold the title to your real estate for a yearly ransom of “property tax” so the chilluns may be edjumacated.
As America has become more libertarian/social liberal, government has grown in scope.
Libertarinism's Communist like contradiction, is that it is impossible, in real life.
Libertarianism breeds, imports, and creates liberal, democrat voters, social conservatism breeds conservative voters.
Prisons and Sodom and Gomorah were/are full of libertarians, but they overwhelmingly vote for liberalism, not conservatism.
Very few people who disagree with conservative American values, are not democrats, and the more people are raised on and exposed to libertarian social liberalism, the more lefty they vote.
exactly, libertarians only think of a fantasy world and not consequences, hell look at how freedom of religion , speech is being done now by the liberaltarian platform
ignoring is not answer back
Also you want no immigration and yet your party wants open borders and wants Govt to enforce it.
Again both way, does it make you look sick and perverted and need to be put away when you spout it is OK to have sex with animals in public when you are in ole MS?
or do you keep certain beliefs private in MS because you know the real world and internet is not the same>?
Do you tell your kids that there should be no laws on them getting screwed by old men or raped or have open borders, or no CIA, FBI or do you not say that?
Ignoring except to respond to an unsolicited personal attack.
Happy?
ignore is to ignore
In other words, the rino GOP is now the same as the democrats except on fiscal issues. They have gone over the edge and America is cursed because of the monsters.
"Classical liberalism is a political philosophy and ideology belonging to liberalism in which primary emphasis is placed on securing the freedom of the individual by limiting the power of the government. The philosophy emerged as a response to the Industrial Revolution and urbanization in the 19th century in Europe and the United States.[1] It advocates civil liberties with a limited government under the rule of law, private property, and belief in laissez-faire economic policy. Classical liberalism is built on ideas that had already arisen by the end of the 18th century, such as selected ideas of Adam Smith, John Locke, Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Malthus, and David Ricardo."
There is not much point in arguing with the so called "conservatives" on this tread, they lack the ability to differentiate between members of the LP and someone adhering to a libertarian philosophy (Classical Liberal). I have tried to point out the difference a few times but they are to dense to get it.
I know. They hear that word and they get brain freeze.
I know quite a few libertarian leaning conservatives and just about all of them mostly agree with the social conservatives on social issues like abortions, immigration, homosexual agenda where they disagree (as do I) is on the War on Drugs. We lost, end the damn war. Social conservatives are very foolish to be waging war on people that agree with them 80% of the time, very foolish indeed.
Sex with goats is a libertarian goal ...I think you’re projecting your own perverted thoughts. Seek help.
No wonder you got banned, you are just a troll, I wonder how many accounts you have gone through.
I do not belong to the Libertarian party. I do not agree with the Libertarian party on borders or immigration. I do not agree with the Libertarian party on intellectual property, or its official stance on abortion.
Sodom, prisons, and hell are/were full of LIBERTINES. Good Lord. Could someone here on FR please start a READING FOR COMPREHENSION ping list? Liberalism, libertinism and libertarianism are three different words with three different meanings sharing a common root word of LIBERTY. It’s been so long since it existed in this country, nobody alive today has experienced it.
Tell me what the difference is in border enforcement between a Democrat and Republican controlled Federal government. When you find something, tell me how it differs with what the Libertarian party officially proposes.
Define social liberalism as what it means to you.
How do you feel about sobriety checkpoints?
Please read my home page here on FR.
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