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Poll: Republican voters have embraced libertarian values
United Liberty ^ | 9/12/13 | Jason Pye

Posted on 09/19/2013 9:45:28 AM PDT by shego

The libertarian philosophy is taking the Republican Party by storm, according to a poll conducted by FreedomWorks, a DC-based grassroots service center with over 6 million members.

With Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) and many other liberty-minded politicians gaining influence, libertarianism has generated new interest inside the Republican Party, much to the chagrin of the GOP's political establishment....

"FreedomWorks' poll shows that 42 percent of Republicans have a favorable view of the word ‘libertarian,' and only 10 percent don't know the word, compared to 27 percent who don't know nationally," they added.

And the term "libertarian" may still turn off some Republican voters, the basic message of the philosophy earns significant favor. The poll found that 68% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents agree with the statement that "individuals should be free to do as they like as long as they don't hurt others, and that the government should keep out of people's day-to-day lives."

What's more, an eye-popping 78% of Republicans consider themselves to be "fiscally conservative, but socially moderate," which is a significant finding given the debate in the GOP on social issues.

Looking outside of just the Republican box, the poll found that 66% of respondents consider themselves to fiscally conservative and socially moderate.

These numbers show that the libertarian message is appealing, not only to Republican voters, but also to all Americans; further advancing the case for conservative-libertarian fusionism as a way to promote free market ideals, limited government, and personal liberty....

(Excerpt) Read more at unitedliberty.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2013polls; freedom; gop; libertarian; libertarianism; libertarians; liberty; randpaul; smallgovernment; trends
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To: SoldierDad

i am a small l libertarian...

are you a conservative, or a republican??

there is a difference..

are all republicans conservatives???

then by the same standard all libertarians are not ron paul nut jobs..

i believe in the constitution AS WRITTEN...

what form of bastardization do you apply to the constitution??


101 posted on 09/19/2013 2:45:15 PM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: noprogs; manc
YOU CANNOT ENFORCE MORALITY!

No, you are wrong. Morality CAN be ENFORCED! That is what many laws do - they ENFORCE morality.

What you possibly meant to say is that government cannot force people to make moral choices. But, when someone makes an immoral choice that goes against statutory law, then that most CERTAINLY can be ENFORCED.

102 posted on 09/19/2013 2:49:18 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: joe fonebone

So, you’re asking me if I have stopped beating my wife yet??


103 posted on 09/19/2013 2:53:05 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SoldierDad

that would be an assault on a person, definately unconstitutional...

but, if she needs a beatin’... :)


104 posted on 09/19/2013 3:10:00 PM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: SoldierDad

Sorry about that. Morality can certainly be enforced. Look in Muslim nations under Sharia with their enforcement gangs.

Morality can not be enforced in this country without destroying the Bill of Rights and personal liberty, which is far more precious than public safety or “clean communities”.

As an example, bank robbery is illegal because it is a violation of property rights, not because it is immoral.

Abortion should be illegal because it robs the fetus of its property, it’s life.


105 posted on 09/19/2013 3:49:58 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: Bikkuri

The biblical warning about being “unequally yoked” is not just for married couples.

Some libertarian ideals are worth a look, especially the long-misrepresented concept of “isolationism” in an era where Ozero has started ten times more nonsense than Bush while spending like a drunk sailor in a brothel.

(and to the navy guy upthread - “defending our interests globally” will either end short of actual allies under threat of land invasion like S.Korea or Japan OR WE WILL GO BANKRUPT, at which point we will be unable to defend jack squat)


106 posted on 09/19/2013 3:58:31 PM PDT by Me1onCollie
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To: noprogs

so you want to have sex with a 14 year old in front of everyone ?

I hope your answer is no otherwise you are one sick child molester


107 posted on 09/19/2013 4:19:41 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ansel12

exactly, I had a post to me saying how morality should not be pushed onto others but then I guarantee when they are asked if it is alright to have sex with a 12 year old in front of the public they will not answer.


108 posted on 09/19/2013 4:21:24 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SoldierDad

exactly, for what is moral to someone one is not to another.

Maybe the child molester wants to have sex with little boys aged 13, and the 13 year old has no problem with it.
Shall we get rid of those laws and let anyone have sex with anyone as long as they consent, hey maybe a 11 year old girl might consent shall we make it alright then?

Shall we allow all forms of marriage under the marriage equality crap we hear, animals, same sex, lots of wives and husbands.

Shall we allow public nudity and sex, after all some would love that under the guise of no Govt, freedom etc?

The founding fathers would turn in their graves if they saw what is being pushed today


109 posted on 09/19/2013 4:28:05 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

Wow . I have a strong libertarian streak as do many of my friends and family. We’re all pretty right wing. Thing is we don’t even think about sex with kids, bestiality, homos getting married. ..but it seems you’re obsessed with those thoughts. Pretty weird man.


110 posted on 09/19/2013 4:28:42 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Blackirish

no , you missed the point these are issues which stand for the liberaltarian party.

You must have missed the other issues I pointed out too

Just because we hear no Govt, freedom etc then when you devolve more into the issues more you find open borders, less much less military, no FBI, CIA, all drugs legal, no zoning laws so drugs and women can be sold outside a day care.

As for being right wing, then on the fiscal side yes but socially liberaltaraians more left then liberals


111 posted on 09/19/2013 4:33:40 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Spktyr

No there is no disagreement between libertarian philosophy and libertarian politics.

That is why the libertarian agenda is homosexuals in the military and immigration and homosexual equality.

How about you get government to not recognize marriage before you promote gay marriage equality and homosexuals in the military.


112 posted on 09/19/2013 4:34:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: xzins

good point.


113 posted on 09/19/2013 4:35:05 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: shego

Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. That arrogation by government is how the whole mess got started.

Really? So let’s be clear here, you want Islam or the Catholic church to define what legal marriage is? When do you think that the government or some other controlling common authority (including an all powerful church or state church) first got involved in marriage?


114 posted on 09/19/2013 4:38:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: shego
Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. That arrogation by government is how the whole mess got started.

Really? So let’s be clear here, you want Islam or the Catholic church to define what legal marriage is? When do you think that the government or some other controlling common authority (including an all powerful church or state church) first got involved in marriage?

115 posted on 09/19/2013 4:41:26 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: Blackirish

Libertarians are not right wingers, they are anti-conservative, that is what the fight is about, not economics Regardless of what you and your family sit around thinking about, it evidently isn’t how to preserve a socially conservative America.


116 posted on 09/19/2013 4:44:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: Anton.Rutter

Your posts are just bizarre, I’m not surprised you ignored post 80, retread.


117 posted on 09/19/2013 4:46:24 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: Wallace T.
One straw man type argument put up by libertarians on the issue of homosexual "marriage" is that marriages were not licensed by the states until the mid to late 19th Century.

Thomas Jefferson bought a marriage license, George Washington paid for his favorite nephew's marriage license.

Jefferson an attorney sometimes involved in divorce law, lamented that when the Roman empire was weak in the 5th century or so, the Catholic Church took over marriage.

118 posted on 09/19/2013 4:52:29 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: ansel12

Obviously, contracts define relationships between competent adults. As for Islamic or Catholic marriage, you’d have to ask some imam or priest, respectively.


119 posted on 09/19/2013 5:02:48 PM PDT by shego
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To: manc

Nope. We are back to property rights again.

Children are the property of their parents until the age of consent. Laws against underage copulation are about property rights, not morality.

In many states, a 14 year old can marry with parental consent.


120 posted on 09/19/2013 5:03:03 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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