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Can Congress Outlaw Executive Orders? Would President Rand Paul sign the legislation ?
17 Sept 2013

Posted on 09/17/2013 6:32:48 AM PDT by 11th_VA

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To: 11th_VA

-—since Executive Orders started with George Washington, it is unlikely that Congress will do that-—


21 posted on 09/17/2013 6:55:34 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Gaffer
A succeeding president can countermand a preceding president’s EO.

You cannot possible be suggesting the Gelding Old Party will ever again reside in the WH. If Rand Paul ran as a Libertarian perhaps.
22 posted on 09/17/2013 6:56:07 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

As much as anyone else here who thinks they can get 2/3 of Congress to do the same.


23 posted on 09/17/2013 6:57:04 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 11th_VA

No, Congress can not out law executive orders. Well they could but the Supreme Court would rule the law unconstitutional.


24 posted on 09/17/2013 7:18:38 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: 11th_VA

Paul will never be pres. Never.


25 posted on 09/17/2013 7:20:01 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: 11th_VA

And if a POTUS won’t follow the Constitution, what makes you think they’ll follow a law?


26 posted on 09/17/2013 7:46:53 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 11th_VA

Executive orders are internal communications within the unitary executive branch headed by the president. Congress cannot forbid the president from giving directions to his subordinates. However Congress can overturn individual EO’s by legislation or go to court to overturn those that they think are contrary to the law or the Constitution.


27 posted on 09/17/2013 7:48:00 AM PDT by Petrosius
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You’re voting for Hillary?


28 posted on 09/17/2013 7:48:23 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: 11th_VA

I wouldn’t vote for him at this point.


29 posted on 09/17/2013 7:50:50 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: faucetman
Yes, Rand Paul for president

I'm leaning that way. The main thing that could change my mind is if he doesn't keep a lid on this father's supporters. Many were were so obnoxious and prone to talking down to anyone who didn't agree with them 100% that they drove people away.

The other thing is to not overestimate the stupidity of the American voter. Talk to the mainstream about how instead of savers getting interest, anonymous owners of the Federal Reserve make billions. Explain how globalism is concentrating wealth, power, and property upward. Say out loud how going back to the Constitution gives us a chance to go back to how great the US was when it was followed. You'll be surprised just how informed most people are about things that are ruining their day-to-day existance.

JMHO

30 posted on 09/17/2013 7:54:02 AM PDT by grania
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To: 11th_VA

No. The president runs the Executive Branch.


31 posted on 09/17/2013 7:55:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: edcoil
Congress can cancel any EO with a 2/3 vote.

How to you figure?

32 posted on 09/17/2013 7:55:37 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 11th_VA

No thanks. Runt Paul is a Liberaltarian.


33 posted on 09/17/2013 8:02:51 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: DoodleDawg

A little more complicated then I put (I massed a few steps) it can be done but I don’t know when/

Congress cannot directly vote to override an executive order in the way they can a veto. Instead, Congress must pass a bill canceling or changing the order in a manner they see fit. The president will typically veto that bill, and then Congress can try to override the veto of that second bill.

The Supreme Court can also declare an executive order to be unconstitutional. Congressional cancellation of an order is extremely rare.


34 posted on 09/17/2013 8:17:54 AM PDT by edcoil (System now set up not to allow some to win but for no one to lose!)
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To: 11th_VA

If you believe the Constitution actually exists, then EOs don’t. The head of the Executive Branch of the United States government may issue such instructions as may be necessary for the operation of that particular branch (just like Congress can and does), but those EOs have no basis in consitutional legitimacy. Even if Congress were to pass a law saying so. Oh, I certainly understand practical power, and that I would be put in jail if I disregarded one, just like I would if I disobeyed one of EPA’s thousands of regulations - but please don’t tell me it would be done pursuant to the Constitution and legitimate powers of the office of President.


35 posted on 09/17/2013 8:30:15 AM PDT by Pecos (Kritarchy: government by the judges)
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To: edcoil
Congress cannot directly vote to override an executive order in the way they can a veto. Instead, Congress must pass a bill canceling or changing the order in a manner they see fit. The president will typically veto that bill, and then Congress can try to override the veto of that second bill.

I think you would have a constitutional problem with that; separation of powers. The President runs the executive branch and Congress hasn't the authority to interfere with how he does that.

The Supreme Court can also declare an executive order to be unconstitutional.

I'm not sure that they can.

Congressional cancellation of an order is extremely rare.

When was the last time they did it?

36 posted on 09/17/2013 8:42:43 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 11th_VA

No. Executive Orders are the executive branches’ interpretations by which laws are implemented. Congress might be able to pass some legislation to establish some sort of review of executive orders, to establish that such interpretations are valid, but it would be very difficult to insulate such an office from presidential influence, since it would necessarily be an executive branch office.


37 posted on 09/17/2013 8:53:20 AM PDT by dangus
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To: 11th_VA

In a word, no, because properly limited executive orders are inherent in the President’s constitutional authority. Congress could enact remedial legislation though that would make it easier to scrutinize and challenge executive orders that exceed that authority.


38 posted on 09/17/2013 10:26:35 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: 11th_VA

Is there a government web site where we can read all E.O.s?


39 posted on 09/17/2013 10:37:22 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: jpsb

Hillary is probably a better man but Idont think I could vote for her.


40 posted on 09/17/2013 11:17:58 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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