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Posted on 09/05/2013 4:20:42 PM PDT by Drango
Touted as a way to quit smoking, the latest data raise concerns that electronic cigarettes, or e-cigarettes, may actually be a gateway for teens into tobacco use.
~snip he said. “Nicotine is a highly addictive drug. Many teens who start with e-cigarettes may be condemned to struggling with a lifelong addiction to nicotine and conventional cigarettes.”
Most addictions to nicotine start at a young age,...suggest that a vast majority of students who use e-cigarettes also turn to conventional tobacco products as well.
~snip Whether e-cigarettes are actually safer than regular cigarettes isn’t clear; a recent study found that e-cigarettes can cause increased resistance in the airways, making it harder to breathe, within minutes of inhalation of the vapors, while other studies have suggested the products can help smokers to quit.
The Food and Drug Administration is currently studying the data on electronic cigarettes and plans to issue a regulatory rule on the products soon. ~snip
The agency’s rule will certainly take into consideration the question of how teens are using e-cigarettes, and will consider studies that investigate whether the products serve as a gateway to other tobacco use. “About 90 percent of all smokers begin smoking as teenagers. We must keep our youth from experimenting or using any tobacco product,” Dr. Tim McAfee, the director of the CDC Office on Smoking and Health said in a statement.
If, as the results suggest, e-cigarette use is tied to tobacco use among teens, then electronic cigarettes could be just as enabling as conventional cigarettes for nicotine addictions. “These dramatic increases suggest that developing strategies to prevent marketing, sales, and use of e-cigarettes among youth is critical,” said McAfee.
(Excerpt) Read more at healthland.time.com ...
why that would be pure flummery!
Growing up fixed my youth addiction.
Nicotine vaporizers should absolutely NOT be available to children. Minimum age laws should be a priority. Same way we don’t allow 15 year olds to buy Peach Schnapps and puke all over themselves, or gamble in Vegas.
Who do you think would oppose such laws? Anti-tobacco big Pharma front groups. They lobbied against minimum age laws because they wanted this kind of shocking headlines...1 kid tried it last year, 2 did this year! OMG it doubled! We have to do something “for the chilruns”. Adults who want to improve their health are just collateral damage.
http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/07/anti-smoking-advocates-admit-real.html?m=1
Anti-Smoking Advocates Admit the Real Reason They Oppose Ban on Sale of Electronic Cigarettes to Minors: They Want Them Taxed Like Cigarettes
As anti-smoking groups’ opposition to legislation that would have banned the sale of electronic cigarettes to minors in Rhode Island and Ohio has unfolded, it has become clear that their main concern is not protecting the health of children, but making sure that electronic cigarettes will be taxed at the same rate as cigarettes.
Within two days, Rhode Island’s governor and anti-smoking advocates in Ohio have admitted that their primary concern is not protecting the health of children, but protecting cigarette sales from competition from much healthier e-cigs, which presently enjoy the advantage of avoiding tobacco excise taxes.
The real issue for these anti-smoking groups is apparently the desire to make sure that e-cigarettes do not enjoy any competitive advantage over tobacco cigarettes. They especially want to make sure that theses products are taxed at comparable rates.
Here’s what Governor Chafee had to say in his message vetoing legislation that would have banned the sale of e-cigs to minors: “The sale of electronic cigarettes to children should be prohibited, but it is counter-productive to prohibit sales to children while simultaneously exempting electronic cigarettes from laws concerning regulation, enforcement, licensing or taxation. As a matter of public policy, electronic cigarette laws should mirror tobacco product laws, not circumvent them.”
Almost simultaneously, an anti-smoking advocacy group in Ohio (the American Cancer Society) admitted their the main reason for their opposition to a proposed ban on the sale of e-cigarettes to minors is that they want these products taxed similarly to cigarettes.
According to an article in the Columbus Dispatch: “Anti-smoking advocates say that below the surface of House Bill 144 is a tobacco-industry-crafted “Trojan horse” designed to ensure that the emerging electronic-cigarette market and other alternative nicotine products remain taxed at a lower rate than traditional cigarettes and stay outside the state’s indoor smoking ban.”
The Rest of the Story
So what is the problem with these bills, in the eyes of the anti-smoking groups? The problem is that in banning the sale of e-cigarettes to minors, these bills define e-cigarettes as vaping products rather than tobacco products. This disturbs the anti-smoking groups because they want e-cigarettes to be defined as tobacco products so that they are taxed at the same rate and treated the same way. The bottom line: they don’t want e-cigarettes to have a competitive marketing advantage.
This is completely ironic because what the anti-smoking groups are doing is protecting cigarette sales from potential competition. The irony is that the tobacco companies are the ones who are pushing for this legislation.
So the rest of the story is that we have an irony of epic proportions: the tobacco companies are lobbying to sacrifice cigarette sales at the expense of the much safer electronic cigarettes, while the anti-smoking groups are lobbying to protect cigarette sales by making sure that it is not too easy for smokers to quit smoking and switch to electronic cigarettes. These groups want to remove the competitive economic advantage that e-cigs currently have and institute economic reforms that would stimulate cigarette sales at the expense of a competitive product designed to get smokers off of cigarettes.
WOW...It took 103 posts for a member of the "addicts" list to show some sanity. The rest of the post was paranoid drivel but I'm thankful for what little common sense I can find. It's a start.
Drango seems to have a problem with acknowledging s/h/it's own "addiction" to attacking others who disagree with s/h/it on the subject of tobacco.
I do believe Drango must be employed by the pharma/body parts cartel because of how ape-$h*t s/h/it goes when the industry is shown for the greedy busterds they actually are.
If I had posted an article about how the pharma/body parts cartel bought and paid for every piece of legislation that attacks those who enjoy tobacco there would be plenty of controversy because Drango and fellow travelers (who are all addicts - using their definition)would be going bananas.
Drango and fellow travelers are NOT and have never been conservatives, no matter what they claim. Conservatives DO NOT approve of the government intruding on the clientele of businesses. Draino and fellow travelers are thrilled that catering and photography businesses are being sued out of business because they do not wish to participate in gay "marriages."
No amount of denial is going to work to refute that final point - if you support government forbidding a business owner to cater to smokers, then you also support government forcing business owners to cater to homosexuals.
my approach is quite orthogonal... let’s all exalt a Lord again who desires to be exalted in our bodies... and let the demand or lack thereof for tobacco &c. take care of itself.
Nicotine is a highly addictive drug. Many teens who start with e-cigarettes may be condemned to struggling with a lifelong addiction to nicotine and conventional cigarettes
or...
About 90 percent of all smokers begin smoking as teenagers.
What does that have to do with my post?
I hate (smoking of) tobacco and I want freedom concerning it. How’s that for a confuser to ya!
It is a naturally occurring chemical in many plants most folks consume on a regular basis - why are you not screaming about teen "addiction" to nicotine who have a diet high in common nightshade plants?
If nicotine found in tobacco is addictive, so is the nicotine found in tomatoes, eggplants, potatoes, and peppers. Why are you only attacking the nicotine found in tobacco? Do you even know where the nicotine in SOME e-cigs comes from? Are you aware of the fact there is a large market for cigarettes that contain no tobacco at all, and actually contain no nicotine at all? The state of Delaware found that out the hard way when a bar owner won a case against the state because their "smoke police" were unable to prove what type of cigarettes were being smoked in his bar after the smoking ban. He only sold non tobacco cigarettes and those were the only ones he allowed to be smoked indoors. He abided by the letter of the law which expressly forbids smoking tobacco products in private establishments. He finally went out of business because of people like you who kept up the attacks on his business and he just couldn't afford to fight you government loving goons any longer - the other way he pissed you people off was because he only sold non-tobacco cigarettes and you all weren't getting your cut because there was no tax on them.
So, please tell me when you became addicted to nicotine because according to the nonsense you spout your first taste of it makes you an addict for life and I seriously doubt you have NEVER eaten any of the foods I mentioned above.
pure, nicotine is a poison
Bummer.
It still has nothing to do with my post.
I understand you want the freedom to not be around those who enjoy it or have no problem with it, but shouldn’t those people also have the freedom to participate?
My whole point was that the same type people who push for smoking bans on private businesses are the same type suing businesses who do not want to make wedding cakes or take wedding pictures of homosexual couples.
I want to tell everyone who smokes that smoking is a horrible idea because God being exalted in their bodies is such a wonderful idea.
How’s that for a confuser to ya again!
Sounds nice. If I had to choose, I think I’d rather work on God being exhaulted in their hearts and minds.
Hey, be exalted all over the place. Not intending to leave the hearts and minds out of the heavenly party here.
I could do “all over the place” when I was younger, but not so much any more.
Hey the body might be a little more sedate today but the bible says they will be “fat and very green” in their old age.
And I’m doing pretty well with the fat part. The very green part... OK OK IT’S FIGURATIVE, LIKE A TREE!!!
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