Posted on 09/02/2013 7:03:49 AM PDT by dontreadthis
Practically everyone I know agrees that strictly obey the Constitution and that is why those that oppose the calling forth of Article V Convention are Constitutional hypocrites. You can not support the Constitution while at the same time rejecting the provisions of Article V.
The Article V Convention was what the method the founders provided to insure the people would be able to control the government and prevent their abuse of power. There have already been more than 34 states that have petitioned Congress for an Article V Convention Even though the requisite numbers of states has been reached Congress continues to violate the Constitution by failing to do what is mandated in Article V. If we have the authority to pick and choose which portions of the Constitution we will follow and which portions we will ignore we are doing the same thing that Congress has been doing for over 100 years.
Currently the progressives get virtually everything they want. The Supreme Court rubber stamps every legislative act regardless of its constitutionality. Congress amends the Constitution every time they pass unconstitutional legislation, the President amends the Constitution with his Executive Orders and the Supreme Court amends the Constitution every time they re-interpret the Constitution to justify the actions of the Legislative and Executive Branches of government.
Why would anyone trust the criminals that created our problems to solve the problems? Anyone that looks to Congress to solve our problems is obviously a valedictorian of a government school. There are so many laws that unconstitutional laws that are being enforce, the Constitution has become an irrelevant piece of paper. Why is it wrong for a forum of the people to gather to discuss possible amendments to the Constitution? Since when is it dangerous to discuss potential solutions to a problem?
Some say that it would be dangerous to convene a convention to discuss potential amendments to the Constitution. Refusing to talk about the problems serves absolutely no useful purpose. Denying the people their right to voice their opinions is what tyranny is all about.
The calling forth of a convention would threaten status quo and the crime syndicate that benefits from the cesspool on Capital Hill. If we sit back and do nothing we are giving our consent to the crime syndicate to continue to rape and pillage what is left of our once great nation.
If the people and the states are supposed to by the masters as it was so eloquently expressed in the tenth amendment, then why are we allowing our servants to call the shots?
If Congress were to propose a terrible amendment and presented it to the states, a total of 38 state legislatures would need to ratify it. If an Article V Convention were to propose an lousy amendment to the state legislatures, it would also need the approval of three fourths of the states. The power to amendment the Constitution is in the people and the states, Currently the states and the people are powerless unless Congress proposes amendments that will limit their power to abuse us.
The American colonist knew that declaring their independence from England would be dangerous, but because they were willing to pay the price for freedom a victory was achieved. They won the war for independence because they believed that freedom was worth fighting for.
In the Declaration of Independence we were instructed to alter or abolish our government when it became tyrannical. If you believe in the principles espoused in the Constitution are worthy, we should not abolish the government. The alter our government lawfully we must utilize the provisions of Article V and avoid the blood bath that would result from efforts to abolish the government.
The worst thing that would come from an Article V Convention would be the proposal of a lousy amendment. If that occurred the proposed amendment would be rejected by the states and no changes to the Constitution would occur. In the best case scenario an amendment that would allow us to indict and prosecute elected officials for violating their oath would added to the Constitution. We have absolutely nothing to lose and potentially everything to gain;
Agree with me or you are a hypocrite!
FU (to the writer).
I’m not convinced, and being called names doesn’t sway me.
Keith badly needs an editor.
Gibberish sentence of the day.
There is no way that I want a convention - under ANY premise. I have watched these last 20 years where massive cheating, lying and extra-Constitutional means have been used to subvert or laws, our tradition, our ethics, and our morals. I am certainly not willing to see a supposedly innocent calling for “THE” convention to see it again raped, pillaged and subverted to evil’s aims. NOT EVEN AN IOTA!
We are at the point now where the only means to correct this is outright armed revolt - because there is nowhere left on this planet left to go and start over. These people are our enemies, not peoples of differing opinion and you cannot reason with them.
Yeah, Keith needs an editor, and he’s correct about our need for an Article V Convention. Meanwhile..., you’re the grammar police....
That said, agreeing that a Section V convention is allowed under the Constitution is NOT the same thing as believing it is a good idea. That is not hypocrisy, that is a disagreement over the best method to cure the problem.
I think I agree with what the author says,
but he is in desperate need of a proofreader.
ok, so we have criticisms regarding grammar and a call for armed revolt
Great way to convince someone, “you’re a hypocrite.”
He needs more than an editor.
So the last measure in the constitution to stem the tied of this monster is something you dont even want to try, but you are just all ready to go out and start shooting people?
And no it isnt a “constitutional convention”. Why do people keep saying that?
Is there ANYTHING that will sway you or are you prepared to be a serf to the Leviathan forever? And that’s not “name calling,” that’s just saying it as it is.
If the Convention of the States fails to produce anything of value, you can still have your armed revolution. Meanwhile there are still some adults in the country.
And, Gaffer, there’s no chance of that revolutionary action of yours ever being hijacked by leftists, now is there? (ROTFLMAO)
I’m sure such a convention would run as honestly as the DNC convention https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8BwqzzqcDs (see 1:23, 1:43, and 2:10). I imagine such a convention would run with the openness of the debates over ObamaCare. I imagine such a convention would run with all the concern for our fundamental human rights that the IRS and NSA show on a daily basis. What could go wrong?
We already have a great Constitution, and the main weakness is that we the people elect sleazy politicians who are too corrupt to follow the Constitution. Why would we risk that for something so unlikely to be better, especially when there is a significant risk that the modification or replacement would be worse?
A better answer (and we do need a solution) is for decent people to get involved in politics and in government. We need to scale back government because excess government action is inherently inefficient and harmful. We need to scale back government because big government inherently reduces freedom. We need to scale back government because the massive spending of big government attracts corrupt and sleazy people who want to enrich themselves by guiding those billions (and now trillions) of our tax dollars into the hands of crony capitalists who repay them with thousands (and now millions) in donations and gifts.
It’s not enough to complain online. We have to get active - in every town hall with or without a prior fuss over any particular issue, in public rallies over specific issues or to support conservative candidates, in writing to our state and federal legislators on a regular basis to urge both specific and general cuts in the size of government and especially to identify potential cuts, in writing to the newspapers and posting online anywhere our words might be read by swing voters (which is probably not here on FR), and in considering how our positions might best be phrased to be convincing (which can most definitely be done here on FR).
“... criticisms regarding grammar and a call for armed revolt...”
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Do I have to choose?
Can’t we do both at the same time, maybe?
Precisely.
Yep, it can be done, but considering the scalywags and carpetbaggers who would be selecting who gets to represent We the People, and what they might propose, it might be a waste of time, or worse yet, dangerous. With the full force of the Media behind anything the delegates might propose coupled with a dumbed down populace, the results might be far worse than anyone anticipates.
We might be better off to put those resources into forming a new political Party, and offer a clear alternative to the statists.
We have a perfectly good Constitution, we just need people in office who will honor it (and their oaths to uphold it).
Your idea of a meaningful, unhijacked, convention is Pollyanish, to say the least. Regardless of whether there are ‘adults’ in this country or not. Liberals don’t do ‘adult’ they don’t do ‘fair’ and they don’t do ‘nice’.
Your other comment assumes there are enough of a contingent outside our urban cesspools and high-pop areas that could make a difference after they’ve destroyed themselves in a feeding frenzy. This is the primary reason they want popular election of Presidents - because they do not represent the dispersed population of the rest of us. (ROTFLMAO, too)
Just a bad argument and a failure to understand what the word hypocrite means. Someone who believes no one should be able to drive a car, but drives a car themselves is a hypocrite. Someone who believes driving a car is a fundamental, but chooses to live in a big city and never drive is just not exercising a right they believe in.
Perhaps the author thinks any day the US Congress does not declare war on someone they are being constitutional hypocrites. Afterall the US Constitution give the Congress the power to declare war, so if they do not use it at every point in time the Congress must be constitutional hypocrites.
Let me know when an English version is available.
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