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Posted on 08/29/2013 6:32:41 AM PDT by Lakeshark
The Presidential Eligibility of Ted Cruz
Got your attention yet? I have a modest proposal for ALL FReepers concerning this issue, but let me explain why there is a proposal at all.
The last couple of weeks our venerable and sainted media (peace be unto them) has decided to, after all these years of silence, bring up the issue of Presidential eligibility. The strange appearance of article after article would make you think they were about to expose the birth certificate of messiah Bambi from a Kenyan hospital and show proof of a renouncement of his citizenship while in Indonesia .
Alas, no it’s not about the eligibility of our current fearless reader, instead it’s about the eligibility of Senator Ted Cruz. For those of us hiding under rocks, Ted Cruz just happens to be one of the finest conservatives to hold office. He’s smart, engaging, persuasive, handles MSM traitors journolists like pathetic kindergartners begging for more candy, presents conservatism naturally as a compelling counter to totalitarian leftismliberalism, plus he really wants to move the country to the right normal place of excellence it once was.
Right now, Ted Cruz is trying to rally the GOP to try to defund Bambicare. He is lobbying for it in the Senate, the House, and more important is rallying the GOP voters to sign a petition urging all GOP members of Congress to join the effort to defund this monstrosity. He is in the breach, fighting the good fight, he is the spearhead of this effort. With this and other efforts he appears to have risen to the top of the leadership of conservatives in America. He has the ear and confidence of most conservatives at this point.
So, does anyone hear believe the MSM is interested in simply following the Constitution when they bring up the question of his eligibility? If you do, read no further. If you don’t believe the MSM wants us to be fighting amongst ourselves at this point, read no further.
Based on what I’ve said above: Here is my proposal:
As conservatives, as FReepers, let’s no longer do what the MSM/Soros/democrat complex wants us to do on this issue, namely fight over the eligibility of Ted Cruz and divide the conservative movement at this crucial time. For those of you who believe he is not eligible, understand these two facts:
1. Senator Cruz has not declared for a presidential run at this point, so there is NO issue. Kindly stop making it an issue, particularly right now. Stop. Cease. Desist. It is not important, he’s not running yet. Kindly don't post articles from the MSM or comment on said articles if they are only about the eligibility of Ted Cruz.
2.You are doing the bidding of the MSM/Soros/democrat complex when you do so. They’ve made it clear they want to divide us on this issue, don’t take the bait. Also, see 1. above. Kindly realize that when the Wa ComPost runs 12 articles in 2 days about this issue, it’s not to help conservatives unite.
For those of us who think he is eligible. Remember number 1. above: He is not yet running, there are more important things to do right now. If you see someone on the opposing side, I suggest you link them to this proposal and ask them if they want to continue to divide conservatives during this crucial time, ask them if they really want to carry the water of the media/Soros/democrat complex.
So here again to all: Let’s call a truce on this issue. Not to surrender your beliefs, no one has to do that yet, he is not running. Rather, let’s unite behind the conservative principles that Cruz is pointing us all to, particularly let’s unite to ask the GOP to defund Bambicare. It’s important to do so rather than to quibble over what is at this time, a nonexistent issue ginned up by our domestic opposition.
Thank you for your support.
Remember all the similar articles in the run-up to the 2008 election about Obama’s constitutional eligibility to become president?
Me neither.
Fact: the Framers made a distinction between "citizen" for senators and representatives and "natural born citizen" for president. There is a difference.
It's really too bad that the brightest shining conservative star we have is not a natural born American citizen, but like Lakeshark said, he has not said anything about running for President at this time.
Nope....that’s not even gonna happen. If he by some chance gets the nomination and those retards pulled that crap in light of Obama’s mysterious immaculation, there would be an all out war, and I would gladly be on the front lines - armed, and ready to die.
Fact: that difference is still maintained even if you accept the actual legal definition of "natural born citizen" as "citizen at birth".
This is a call to simply drop the discussion so we don't fight amongst ourselves at this point. It's not important because he has not declared, it is important to unite over the opposition to Bambicare. The MSM wants us to fight, to be divided, let's not take their bait.
Diogenes Lamp, I'm asking you and those who are deeply involved with the eligibility question to cease for now, to stop and unite with other conservatives over the issues at hand, namely the defunding of Bambicare. Kindly ping the list of your FRiends and think about this proposal.
Then when is a good time? Once the wheels are already in motion and someone writes a proposal saying that the time to debate this was before since we knew it was possible he would run?
When exactly Lake?
If there is no threat of punishment there will be no compliance.
Witness our immigration laws.
I have no confidence that certain posters can exercise self control on this issue unless there is a penalty for violations.
The Palin Derangement Syndrome sufferers never voluntarily ceased in spamming every Sarah Palin related thread. I do not expect the NBC derangement crowd from voluntarily surrerndering on this issue.
I could be wrong. But knowing human nature as I do, I don’t think I am.
If you like what he's doing now, think how as majority leader he could ride Constitutional shotgun on all legislation that goes to the prez to be signed.
When was the last time any generation of Americans could say that about the Senate leadership or the crap they subject us to?
Moreover, how long could he be in the majority/minority leadership position and over how many crappy presidents and even crappier congresses?
Yep. An answered prayer Majority leader Cruz would be, and for a nice long time. Maybe long enough for the changes he'd likely encourage to take and hold.
Just my humble opinion.
A fine opinion sir.
“Factoid” does not mean “a little fact.” It means something that looks like a fact, but isn’t. Just as an “android” looks like a man, but isn’t.
No one claims that Cruz was not born a citizen. The rigorists claim that the framers and ratifiers of the Constitution meant by “natural born Citizen” only a person born on U.S. soil of two citizen parents.
Well, I'm unsure that such is a good idea ("get[ting] this straight at the Supreme level") — we've seen just how far the USSC is willing to go to rationalize federal overreach/unlawful-dictates, which is not a new problem: Wickard, Raich, Kelo, ACA, and Schenck pop immediately to mind.
I am convinced that the Obama/McCain race was put forward to weaken the Constitution's mandate for natural born citizenry, and am suspicious that the Romney/McCain was more of the same.* — I'm not saying that Cruz is ineligible, as I believe that NBC is about the parents [both of them] rather than the location, which the 14th amendment conflates with its clause about birth. It is from the route of the 14th Amendment that I see how the courts could do (and do) much damage to the Constitution: just look at the magic of incorporation and how something that specifically constrains the congress is held binding on the States via the magic of incorporation! (Rather than simply applying the text as-is.)
That's why I am leery of the whole thing.
* Also, do you want to bet that after Obama's term was over and the new guy installed, that he would have come out as being born in Kenya and the new-guy [Romney] would issue a Pardon?
Or you would have to admit that you screwed up.
“Not to surrender your beliefs, no one has to do that yet, “
Go ahead and demand more surrender. Still does not matter. The question remains regardless of what you call me or how many pix of Yosemite Sam on a dragon you post.
And it is a legitimate question.
I would vote for Ted Cruz’s father for president.
I know of immigrants with more “American blood” than pampered, self-indulgent, natural born societal leeches.
There is a great article about Rafael Cruz in NR.
Ted Cruz and his dad are going to be phenomenal on the campaign chicken circuit.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/356934/rise-rafael-cruz-robert-costa
If they want to challenge Cruz's eligibility than everything that zero's administration did--including obamacare-- becomes null and void. They can mount a court challenge to cruz but the backfire will be heard around the world. That ain't gonna happen and since its not I stand behind Cruz's run for the Presidency firmly.
I still say legal or not zero has set a precedent for one parent only to be the new eligibility for the Presidency since our gutless Pubbies failed to impeach his sorry ass.
The possibility of zero having another father who may have been US born is irrelevant since he has declared obama Sr. as his father.
I am leery of the outcome. But the alternative is endless argument as the Dems and GOP push it further each election in the future. It has to have an official settlement one way or the other. If so, we can move on.
Let's see what some of those who are consumed by the eligibility issue say first. I understand where you are coming from. If the majority of them don't agree to some self control over this issue at this time, then this post of mine will come to nothing.
Let's see what their reaction is. If you and xzins could ping those who you have been in discussion with lately, it would be appreciated.
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