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Fox News' Bret Baier: Dual Citizens Can't Be President (Finally They Get It Right!)
Fox News ^ | 8-21-2103

Posted on 08/22/2013 11:52:50 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter

TEAM OBAMA FLASHBACK:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children. Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982.” - Obama's Fight the Smears and Factheck.org.

- See more at: http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/08/bret-baier-reports-obama-cruz-not-eligible.html#idc-container

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackobama; birthcertificate; canada; coldcaseposse; congress; constitution; democrats; electionfraud; eligibility; fraud; govtabuse; mediabias; medialies; military; naturalborncitizen; obma; president; sheriffjoearpaio; teaparty; tedcruz
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Fox News' Bret Baier: Dual Citizens Can't Be President (Finally They Get It Right!)

Thanks, CC Posse Supporter.

21 posted on 08/22/2013 12:29:22 PM PDT by LucyT (In politics, "Lack of Money" speaks louder than words. Stop donating to RINOs.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Yay! Another birther thread! Woohoo! Maybe this’ll be the one that finally settles the matter once and for all.


22 posted on 08/22/2013 12:32:41 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: massgopguy

What about Hillary’s allegiance to the Island of Lesbos?


23 posted on 08/22/2013 12:33:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Why are they ALL OF A SUDDEN “getting” it? (Cruz?)


24 posted on 08/22/2013 12:33:59 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: LucyT

BUMP


25 posted on 08/22/2013 12:35:14 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens. KILL THE BILL!)
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To: Ramius

The Commies at the Washington Post had 12 articles going “birther” against Cruz in 2 days.


26 posted on 08/22/2013 12:36:16 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: DiogenesLamp

Bum seems legit. He’s got a crayola art portfolio.


27 posted on 08/22/2013 12:38:43 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Fox. Shepbitch Smith. Bill Ohreally. Whorealdo.
I used to watch Fox. No longer. Don’t miss it.


28 posted on 08/22/2013 12:39:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Obama’s two election victories have mooted the original constitutional interpretation of any president being a “natural born” citizen. We are stuck with the present definition for any citizen with one foreign parent-baby born on US soil or baby born abroad and brought back here by the citizen parent for the term of some years[10?].

Obama’s fake birth certificate lists Hawaii and Cruz was back in the US as a child. Cruz is filing paperwork to be delisted as a potential Canadian. I’d vote for Cruz if he ran.


29 posted on 08/22/2013 12:40:06 PM PDT by RicocheT (Where neither their property nor their honor is touched, most men live content, Niccolo Machiavelli)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

I do very much love what Ted Cruz is doing in his first term. I believe him to be a true American Patriot, but he is not a natural born citizen as I perceive the premise.

My belief is that one has to be born in this country of two citizen parents. It really is simple, and anyone that bothers to understand the philosophical premise laid down by the Founders has to agree.


30 posted on 08/22/2013 12:40:24 PM PDT by nesnah
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To: Nero Germanicus; Cold Case Posse Supporter

In 1844, the highest court in New York ruled someone born in the USA, with 2 British subject parents, who moved to England a few months after her birth and never returned, qualified as a natural born citizen of the USA:

“And the constitution itself contains a direct recognition of the subsisting common law principle, in the section which defines the qualification of the President. “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President,” &c. The only standard which then existed, of a natural born citizen, was the rule of the common law, and no different standard has been adopted since. Suppose a person should be elected President who was native born, but of alien parents, could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the constitution? I think not.”

That decision was cited with approval in the US Supreme Court case Wong Kim Ark.


31 posted on 08/22/2013 12:42:23 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: cripplecreek

:-D LOL!


32 posted on 08/22/2013 12:42:54 PM PDT by hope (Whom the Son sets free is free indeed!)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
His attitude is a reflection of the media in general and Obama supporters.

Yup, I suspect Krauthammer and his DC beltway attitude sees Cruz as too conservative...the reason to out him.

33 posted on 08/22/2013 12:43:06 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: RicocheT

Cruz should not lift a finger to abrogate any claim Canada might have on him. If he does, it would dishonor the memory of the patriots who gave their lives at Lundy’s Lane, Thames River, Fort McHenry, and New Orleans. The ignorance of US History on the left and sadly the right is disheartening


34 posted on 08/22/2013 12:45:47 PM PDT by gusty
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter; LucyT; Brown Deer; Fred Nerks; null and void
Dual Citizens can't become president and kudos for Charles Krauthammer for bringing up the allegiance factor pertaining to the British Crown. You can't be president and have allegiance to a foreign sovereignty. What is severely irritating is the Washington Posts Charles Lane sitting in the middle who adamantly states it's silly that we can't have a dual Citizen president like its no big deal. His attitude is a reflection of the media in general and Obama supporters.

The correct proposition is that a person who is born subject to the sovereignty of some head of state other than the United States is not a Natural Born Citizen and is not eligible to hold the office of President.

The disqualifying condition would usually occur because the person would be born outside the United States and thus subject to the sovereignty of the head of state of the place of birth.

Dual Citizenship per se is largely irrelevant.

Are you asserting that Uraguqay could disqualify a candidate they didn't like for President of the US by passing legislation granting such person citizenship? Of course not.

Have you considered the fact that a large part of the population of the US, is, unknown to the individual members, citizen of another country? Many Euro countries have automatic citizenship to grandchildren of departed citizens--if you have a grand parent; or grand father in some cases; you are automatically a citizen, know it or not.

More likely to be a problem? An immigrant to the US from a country which does not automatically grant citizenship to granchildren; comes to US; marries a US Citizen and applies for citizenship; they have a child before citizenship is granted thus leaving the child a dual citizen (of the US by place of birth under the 14th Amendment; of the country of origin because the parent was a citizen only of that country at the date of birth).

The child grows up and has his own son; that son is also a citizen of both countries under normal principles of international law in most cases.

Silly to focus primarily on the dual citizen question--the issue; the only issue; is sovereignty of the place of birth.

35 posted on 08/22/2013 12:47:34 PM PDT by David
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To: gusty

does Cruz have Canadian citizenship?

Has that even been established?

Being born there apparently does not make you a citizen automatically


36 posted on 08/22/2013 12:48:12 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: gusty
Hurray for you!

If the do-dos have their way, Fidel will have a veto over Cruz running for President.
37 posted on 08/22/2013 12:49:15 PM PDT by kenavi (Debunk THIS!)
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To: cripplecreek

anyone but a dim


38 posted on 08/22/2013 12:49:58 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: ncpatriot

I’m damn sure not going to help them use it against us after they’ve ignored and ridiculed it for the past 5 or 6 years.


39 posted on 08/22/2013 12:59:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: GeronL

It doesn’t matter who Canada considers a citizen (subject in Canada’s case). It matters who the US considers a citizen of the US. We fought the War of 1812 over the issue. The UK, which included Canada, impressed (crude way of drafting) American citizens who they still considered subjects of theirs into their armed forces. The US did not accept the proposition that one had to go through a foreign countries procedures in order to renounce citizenship of that country. The act of being a US citizen, no matter how, implies that all other citizenships are renounced. To my knowledge, the United States has considered Ted Cruz a citizen since birth. What Canada considers him is completely irrelevant, in the spirit of James Madison and Thomas Jefferson.


40 posted on 08/22/2013 1:01:13 PM PDT by gusty
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