Posted on 08/14/2013 1:28:02 PM PDT by LucyT
Before Stalin could confiscate the guns he needed a national gun registry.
In April the United Nations passed sweeping legislation that will regulate the international arms trade and could lead to a national registry in the United States.
Barack Obama is reportedly going to sign the treaty this month while Congress is on vacation.
In April the United Nations passed sweeping legislation that will regulate the international arms trade and could lead to a national registry in the United States.
Barack Obama is reportedly going to sign the treaty this month while Congress is on vacation.
Ammoland reported:
You heard it straight from the horse’s mouth. Jay Carney said Obama will sign the UN Arms Trade Treaty “before the end of August…We believe it’s in the interest of the United States.”
This is very strategic timing considering Congress is on a 5 week vacation lasting thru the month of August!
These back door tactics are nothing new for the Obama Administration, which is why we are using tactics of our own to stop his anti-gun agenda. We have the home fax numbers of every Senator so while they are absent from the Capitol we can demand they must not ratify the UN Gun Treaty once Obama signs it.
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No it does not. Or the Constitution could be amended simply by the President and 2/3 of the Senate, leaving the House and States out of the deal entirely.
The Supreme Court has made it very clear that when the Constitution and a treaty conflict, the Constitution wins.
Reid vs. Covert decision “No agreement with a foreign nation can confer power on the Congress, or on any other branch of Government, which is free from the restraints of the Constitution.”
In other words, it is the Constitution that constrains first, then international treaty. The Second Amendment trumps international treaty.
37=34.
Nice way for a communist dicktator to eliminate 2016 elections and declare Marshall Law.
It isn’t about successfully registering guns. It is about demonizing gun owners as uncooperative and outlaws so even stronger laws can be made without question.
Thankfully our SCOTUS will uphold the Constitution...
Yes, it does. Pending ratification, the United States abides by international agreement (illegally) pursuant to the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, which we never ratified. Hence by "customary international law," that the Senate refused to hold a ratification vote means conditions will stay this way: with the US abiding by a treaty that is not ratified, just like Kyoto and the ICC Treaties (Bush rescinded the signature of the latter).
Obama will start setting its provisions in motion immediately, if not sooner.
>> Thankfully our SCOTUS will uphold the Constitution...
Yeah, I actually think they will. The immediate ramifications would be that the Constitution means nothing, therefore the SCOTUS (which is a clear part of the Constitution) also means nothing if an international treaty is made that makes it irrelevant. This point would be clearly stated in arguments.
The Senate has already voted 53-46-1 earlier this year to tell the administration to NOT sign the treaty, so the possibility of getting 67 votes in favor of adopting the treaty is nonexistent.
My point was...
Considering Roberts’ defection to join the 4 socialists on CommieCare and actually (and unconstitutionally) rewrite the bill, our Constitution is indeed in jeopardy and Americans cannot depend on SCOTUS to follow the Constitution.
67 senators.
Obastard has dozens of alphabet agencies all headed by slobbering sycophants who are eager to do his evil bidding.
Sure Roberts is available.
THAT is what is REALITY, and even though it is ILLEGAL, it doesn't stop THIS Government from taking actions that are un-challenged and are consistent with its practices.
Is there any reason that any honest person would regard a treaty which was signed by the President but not ratified by the Senate as being any more meaningful than a treaty which was signed by the Secretary of State, or for that matter by Joe the Plumber?
Anyone who is going to take action on the basis of a treaty which has allegedly been agreed to by any nation should first check whether the alleged agreement is legitimate under the laws of that nation. If some people fail to do so and are subsequently harmed by the country's subsequent refusal to honor the "treaty", the harm they suffers is entirely their own fault; they may seek redress against any individuals who misrepresented the treaty as being a legitimate agreement, but are not due any remedy by the country that never agreed to it.
Ditto!!
“It’s not an arms treaty. It’s a tax” - USSC Justice John Roberts
Now we in California are facing laws to be passed in October that make all semi-auto .22LR rim fire rifles assault weapons that must be registered, outlaw AR type Rifles and Ruger Mini-14's and any existing that are owned turned in or registered, require all long guns to be registered (all hand guns already registered), outlaw all magazines even those already owned that hold more then 10 rounds illegal and must be turned in or destroyed, ban Internet ammo sales and require registration and thumb print to buy ammo, add a 10% tax to all ammo, if you have more than one DUI in a two year period they can confiscate your guns for 10 years, and it only gets worse. My Sheriff has already stated the laws are unconstitutional, unenforceable, and will be ignored in the County. Many other California Sheriffs have said the same thing. Either way this state is going to instantly create several million paper felons, millions of outlaws, and will get a lot of innocent people killed. NUTS!
I agree. “If the constitution means nothing, the SCOTUS also means nothing”. Also, any and all federal laws mean nothing because we are no longer under a binding contract. (If their side is not abiding by it, then I don’t think we are bound anymore either.)
It would mean chaos, but if that is what they choose, so be it. They need to think carefully before rendering the entire constitution as null and void.
Good luck with that.
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